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Ask HN: The Future of SaaS

7•pramatosh5125•9mo ago
We've been in the SaaS game for a few years now—building, shipping, and growing small products—and I just can't help but feel that the landscape is changing in a troubling way.

Prices are going up across the board. Tools that were once affordable for indie founders or early-stage teams are suddenly priced for enterprise budgets. The "freemium" model is giving way to aggressive trials, usage-based pricing, and paywalls around core features. It's as if the barrier to entry is increasing not only for customers, but also for builders.

Meanwhile, competition is fiercer than ever. AI is speeding up development, but it's also flooding markets overnight. Hundreds of clones, minor modifications, and "launch-first-iterate-later" products overwhelm the same niches. Discovery has been broken. Differentiation is more difficult than it's ever been.

And perhaps worst of all, trust is being lost. Users are tired of bait-and-switch, surprise deprecations, and data lock-ins. There's a feeling that too many SaaS businesses are more concerned with growth-at-all-costs than product quality, user experience, and long-term value.

Are we hurtling towards a SaaS winter? Or is this merely a bad patch in a changing ecosystem?

I'd love to know how you're feeling—particularly other indie founders and bootstrapped teams. Are you hopeful, or are you questioning your role in SaaS entirely?

Would you like to customize it for a particular audience—such as startup founders, developers, or investors

We've been in the SaaS game for a few years now—building, shipping, and growing small products—and I just can't help but feel that the landscape is changing in a troubling way.

Prices are going up across the board. Tools that were once affordable for indie founders or early-stage teams are suddenly priced for enterprise budgets. The "freemium" model is giving way to aggressive trials, usage-based pricing, and paywalls around core features. It's as if the barrier to entry is increasing not only for customers, but also for builders.

Meanwhile, competition is fiercer than ever. AI is speeding up development, but it's also flooding markets overnight. Hundreds of clones, minor modifications, and "launch-first-iterate-later" products overwhelm the same niches. Discovery has been broken. Differentiation is more difficult than it's ever been.

And perhaps worst of all, trust is being lost. Users are tired of bait-and-switch, surprise deprecations, and data lock-ins. There's a feeling that too many SaaS businesses are more concerned with growth-at-all-costs than product quality, user experience, and long-term value.

Are we hurtling towards a SaaS winter? Or is this merely a bad patch in a changing ecosystem?

I'd love to know how you're feeling—particularly other indie founders and bootstrapped teams. Are you hopeful, or are you questioning your role in SaaS entirely?

Would you like to customize it for a particular audience—such as startup founders, developers, or investors

Comments

zer8k•9mo ago
> And perhaps worst of all, trust is being lost. Users are tired of bait-and-switch, surprise deprecations, and data lock-ins. There's a feeling that too many SaaS businesses are more concerned with growth-at-all-costs than product quality, user experience, and long-term value.

Perhaps in your corner of the industry. On the consumer side people have been very vocally tired of purchasing products piecemeal on a subscription basis for a long time now. I, personally, am so sick of everything being a subscription I refuse to participate except in one or two services I use almost every single day. SaaS vendors to me are without a doubt vultures. A good exception that makes me happy is jetbrains. They are one of the few I am happy to pay for. Most of the other consumer grade SaaS is churn and burn crap.

I personally welcome the death of SaaS. I hope it brings forth a new era where I actually own things and can pay a company every couple years some nominal percentage of retail for a “service pack” upgrade.

ativzzz•9mo ago
I think SaaS platforms are the future. Because the cost to build is now so low, but you still need 2,3,4,5 tools that you'd subscribe to, you want to find the one provider that built those 5 tools as part of a platform, so you are in 1 ecosystem and don't need to manage multiple providers and data formats.

SaaS providers need to really get to know their core audience, and expand their product offerings so that their customers don't need to subscribe to multiple tools. It's a product challenge. When you can build more software quickly and easily, you have to really understand your customer needs

souhail_dev•9mo ago
I think SaaS platforms will increase year after year, so the real skill a founder needs to learn is not how to build or how to come up with the perfect idea, but how to market.

imo, the quality of the product doesn't need to be so perfect, only the necessary what users are expecting is enough, but if you had a perfect marketing strategy you can sell anything, and I learned that from "stanley water bottle", they managed to wash people's minds to buy a f*cking water bottle for 70$, or I guess it was even more than that when it was trendy

ezekg•9mo ago
This reads like AI slop, especially the call to action at the end seemingly asking for further refinement of the messaging for a particular audience, and the duplication screams copy/paste.

But, to answer the question: no, SaaS is not going anywhere. If you're facing problems, it's not AI, it's your product.

ldjkfkdsjnv•9mo ago
Dude AI is going to make all of these platforms obsolete, what are you going on about
3dsnano•9mo ago
How?
Spooky23•9mo ago
The risk to SaaS is that hyperscaler companies are coming for you. Print out of the list of services in AWS/Azure/GCP. 60% of them were standalone services or even companies. Now they are just white box services.

As growth slows or opportunities present, they’ll dip deeper down the stack to make money or shore up their other businesses.

AliNaqvi786•9mo ago
The SaaS landscape is undergoing a major recalibration. Rising costs, AI-fueled saturation, and declining user trust are real and immediate challenges, especially for indie founders and early-stage builders who historically thrived on lower friction.

That said, I believe we're not necessarily heading into a "SaaS winter," but rather into a new era of higher expectations. The bar for value delivery, transparency, and differentiation is being reset — not eliminated. Those who can monetize flexibly (without alienating users), differentiate meaningfully (beyond just features), and build lasting trust will still find strong opportunities ahead.

It's harder now — no doubt — but I’m cautiously optimistic. This next phase will reward creators who focus deeply on genuine customer value rather than rapid growth hacks.