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Ask HN: Best underrated way to get a job in tech during a hiring slowdown?

16•tolarewaju3•9mo ago
My sister-in-law is graduating at probably the worst time. I've done referrals and helped her build a portfolio, but it's pretty bleak right now.

Any other ideas?

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duxup•9mo ago
Find a small company, there are lots of little software companies that work in niche areas.

They may not pay as much up front but you get your foot in the door and at small organizations you can touch everything.

Don’t be afraid to look at weird industries you might not associate with tech.

tolarewaju3•9mo ago
Ahh this is good advice. Thank you!!
mmarian•9mo ago
Agreed, I got into full-stack development by working at startups first.
sargstuff•9mo ago
Make use of a hacker space[1] / start a version of Home Brew Computer club [0] and/or other local area club affiliated with a professional organization / join,participate in a related professional organization subgroup activity(s)[2]

[0] : https://www.zdnet.com/article/what-happened-at-the-homebrew-...

      https://www.computerhistory.org/revolution/personal-computers/17/312
[1] : https://hackerspaces.org/

[2] : a) https://www.acm.org/

      b) https://www.ieee.org/

      c) start a side project to keep/retain skills aka https://makezine.com/

      d) "top 10" professional organizations : https://technologymagazine.com/top10/top-10-technology-associations
tolarewaju3•9mo ago
I’d never thought about this actually. I’ll definitely check out hacker spaces
toomuchtodo•9mo ago
Local/state government tech work. Pay is lower, job security higher.
tolarewaju3•9mo ago
Good idea!!
VirusNewbie•9mo ago
Contribute substantially to large open source projects with active communities.
tolarewaju3•9mo ago
This is good and actionable. I work for Red Hat, so I actually love this
investa•9mo ago
Help her by telling her how to best apply and prep for Red Hat interviews. Yes nepotism.
markus_zhang•9mo ago
Marrying a high management?
tolarewaju3•9mo ago
LOLL
markus_zhang•9mo ago
Definitely an underrated way!
revskill•9mo ago
You can marry more than 1 in some regions.
sph•9mo ago
> it's pretty bleak right now.

My brother in $DEITY, it’s been bleak since 2023 at the very least. Two years later it’s no longer just a phase.

Forget underrated, the only thing that works is referrals and word of mouth. As you’re already in the field, your direct contacts are her best option.

mmarian•9mo ago
what is $DEITY?
shinryuu•9mo ago
Commonly known as God. But insert your own deity here.
semanticc•9mo ago
It's essentially <insert god of your choice>
bayareapsycho•9mo ago
idk I just spammed my resume everywhere and did a bunch of leetcode and that was enough, apply to 5 different roles every day and you'll eventually get something
giantg2•9mo ago
It is a numbers game, but I would apply to at least 10 per day. It might take thousands of applications and months of applying.
worldsavior•9mo ago
Doing open source contributions. It shows you have actual experience and interest.
giantg2•9mo ago
The best "underrated" way is to lowball yourself. Apply to as many places as possible, including non-tech companies. When asked, give a starting salary that's at the bottom of the range for the position or even slightly under (use indeed, glassdoor, levels, etc for the range).

Because she's a she, I strongly recommend looking at large non-tech companies that promote equality. There's probably some equality index or ESG style list to help identify them. I know they exost necaude my company gives a strong preference to female candidates, even internally for promotions and stuff. I can't give my company name but I'm sure there are others out there.

curtisblaine•9mo ago
I'm not sure your company is operating legally in most western countries.
giantg2•9mo ago
Considering that I've seen the preference for gender in hiring negatively impact qualified candidates with disabilities, you might be right. But nobody can prove it, nor does anyone care.
shumakriss•9mo ago
If nobody can prove it, why give advice based on it?
austin-cheney•9mo ago
In IT there are three highly generalized routes to consider:

* Low barrier of entry jobs, like most web developer jobs. Good luck, it’s a race to the bottom but it’s also where most of the jobs are. The goal here is to pad your resume with nonsense and compete with hundreds of other people that are also padding their resumes.

* Jobs that require licenses and/or certifications. These will be jobs like cloud infrastructure support, cyber defense, routing/switching, project management, and operations. These jobs are harder to qualify for and are fewer than the prior bullet point but are a much safer bet and tend to pay more.

* High talent jobs, which include the gaming industry and more engineering type jobs. These jobs are the fewest and not as secure as the prior category. They also are the most variable in compensation, but they tend to be the most fulfilling for people with high intelligence or high creativity.

Know which way you want to go because the means to achieve these jobs differ radically.

nicbou•9mo ago
I am out of touch with the current market, so take my advice with a grain of salt.

I got my start by bringing tech skills in underserved industries. There is so much need for small custom software to fit local business needs, but most devs prefer bigger, longer projects in established companies. Being a tech wizard in a small business can be super fun.

aristofun•9mo ago
Advertising you are selling yourself at a great discount
irf1•9mo ago
Contribute to open source, solve GitHub bounties, do contract work. See https://algora.io
rasulkireev•9mo ago
I got the job of my dream at the company of my dream by sending an 1 min improvised introduction video + a lengthy cover letter answering all the questions in the job description.

That's the first time I ever tried it and will likely be the last one (since i don't want to go to a different company).

Caveat: this will prob work for a smaller company, not Google-like.

Wrote a small post about it: https://gettjalerts.com/blog/tech-job-video-intro

akudha•9mo ago
copyright year is still 2024 in the footer
rasulkireev•9mo ago
damn, should use https://getfullyear.com/
whatamidoingyo•9mo ago
This has got to be a joke, right?

Edit: okay, yeah. Definitely a joke. Quite funny.

rasulkireev•9mo ago
fixed