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How does a "you interview for US company, we do the work" scam work?

17•marttilaine•3h ago
Got this scam email about an opportunity to earn passive income by acting as the front for an employment fraud scheme.

How does the scammer benefit from this operation?

I can think of 2 ways:

- Personal / private data mining, but this seems quite work intensive for that purpose - Actually going through with the whole scam and disappearing after first salary payments come through

Any other ideas? Anyone have experience or insight about this?

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Full email below:

"Hi <name>, I hope you’re doing well.

My name is <sender>, and I’ve been a software developer for over 7 years — mainly full stack, with a strong focus on frontend. I’m reaching out because I’m looking for someone to collaborate with, and I think you're the best one whom I'm looking for.

I used to partner with my friend Jim, and we worked really well together. Sadly, he was diagnosed with cancer about a month ago, and he advised me to find someone new to team up with. That’s why I wanted to talk to you.

Here’s the idea: I’ll handle sending proposals to companies, and you would take care of the interviews with recruiters. My English isn’t strong enough for U.S. interviews, so I’m looking for someone who is confident in English and also has strong technical knowledge. If we land a position, you’d receive a share of the monthly salary, while I would take care of the actual development work.

My initial suggestion is a 50/50 split of the salary after tax. For example, if a job pays $10K per month and taxes are 30% ($3K), the remaining $7K would be split evenly — $3.5K each.

I will manage all the proposals and keep you informed about interview schedules. If things work out and we join a team, I’ll handle the project development. Then you'll get profit every month without any work.

If this sounds interesting to you, please let me know — I’d really like the chance to work together.

Thank you, Best regards, <sender>"

Comments

tdullien•3h ago
There's been an ongoing issue with North Korean state agents infiltrating SV companies, and this proposal helps them pass the interview process more easily.

There's multipronged benefit for them: Access to company infrastructure to potentially cause harm or ransom in the future, access to technology / intelligence, but also simply foreign currency.

nottorp•2h ago
Not necessarily North Koreans only.

Anyone in a very low income area can benefit from pretending they're in a high income area and negotiating US-like pay.

Although the cancer stuff does look very scammy.

jack_tripper•1h ago
There's an event bigger number of Indian candidates trying to scam themselves into US jobs, than north Korean ones.

Especially when the recruiting process of big companies becomes predictable and well documented online, candidates will just perfect the targeting and cheating of that specific system.

What if the future just becomes in person interviews again, because every remote candidate will either be an Deepfaked scammer with a stolen ID, or a cheater with someone nearby whispering AI generated answers to him?

ignoramous•2h ago
Outsourcing your own job is quite a fraud business.

  Recently my friend was approached by a Telugu broker stating that he would pay 10k for a part time job ... My friend agreed to a tech stack and he was connected with one of his US clients and he started sharing his screen and gave him his entire sprint's work.

  There are thousands of such [Non-resident Indians] especially from Andhra, Telangana going to USA not learning anything about industry, these people have no coding knowledge, can't even explain their work properly to [3rd parties]. They [earn] 6 digit USD [and pay] these brokers some 40-50K Rupees [$6000] every month and outsourcing it to a jobless Indian. Brokers eat away most of the money and pay the end person around 10k [$100].

  The worst part, my friend said it would take around 40 hrs a month (2 hrs everyday) to complete this US client's sprint tasks (client works for a major [Multi-National Corp for] ~120k USD/year, while my friend gets 10k rupees/month [$100/mo].
https://www.reddit.com/r/developersIndia/comments/1chm6g4/nr... / https://archive.vn/DbK9x
brianwawok•1h ago
Yes and having employees that work 2 hours and F off just makes it not worth it. Outsource that 2h work to an AI farm and pay a grand total of $200 per month. Easy win.
rasse•2h ago
You should update your CV accordingly: "Likely to pass several technical interviews (as assessed by the North Korean Reconnaissance General Bureau)."
pgsandstrom•2h ago
Maybe they just want access to the specific companies? Like, you get hired by the company. You hand over username/password/vpn-info to them. Then they have a way inside the company and can try to steal information, install backdoors, whatever, with very low risk of getting caught.
Madmallard•2h ago
I literally just got this email as well
xnx•2h ago
Not that complicated? The scammer gets a salary for a job they would not be able to get legally.

"Arizona woman to serve 8 years for identity theft scheme benefiting North Korea": https://www.npr.org/2025/07/25/nx-s1-5479906/north-korea-ide...

bjornarv•1h ago
You manage to make the connection to North Korea, but somehow think that the salary is what they are after. Interesting
chatmasta•1h ago
These NK operations are after salary and intelligence. The salary ensures the operation is self-sustaining even while it doesn’t yield actionable intelligence. They can keep growing their army of staffers until they get a hit on a prime target. And since nobody at the company meets the actual worker, they can rotate “employees” as needed – when a big score is in sight, they can plug their best hackers into the operation to “close the deal” (stealing cryptocurrency, trade secrets, or other actionable intel).
bryanrasmussen•2h ago
hmm, my ex-manager would probably appreciate these guys over me because I bet they never point out when someone is an idiot.
Nextgrid•2h ago
There are generally 2 angles to it:

* malicious: hostile actors want to gain footholds into companies - North Korea, etc

* benign: people in lower income countries want to do the job and can make good profit even when giving half the salary to you.

For the second option, some are scams and only want to pocket a month or two of salary without delivering before the company fires them. Others actually deliver and can keep the arrangement going long-term.

robotswantdata•2h ago
You’ll pass the sniff test, they don’t.

Be careful they might try and use your identity to then commit more fraud.

tompark•1h ago
Similar thread:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41641446

anovikov•1h ago
You will get interviews from fake companies these same guys organised in the same manner, then you get paid, send them their half, and then it will turn out that those companies were fakes and pay came from accounts fed by stolen corporate CC numbers, and you will go to jail because everything was done from your name.
b3ing•1h ago
I got this offer once but they wanted 80%, which won’t even cover taxes. They wanted the money first so, which was shady, like what guarantee would anyone have they would get anything. Plus they would need all of someone’s personal info.
nostrademons•11m ago
Basically you're lending your name and identity as a front for someone with malicious intentions.

There are a few different angles to this. Other people have already mentioned the North Korean state-sponsored espionage, but honestly I think this is a small minority of this market.

The other two big ones are visa fraud and employment fraud. With the first one, you have a developer, possibly even skilled in a low-wage overseas company (say Thailand) that wants to make American wages. If he applies as who he actually is, he makes Thai wages, which can be as low as $10K/year. If he uses your identity to apply, he makes American wages, say $200K+/year. He can split that with you and make 10x what he would otherwise, while you get $100K/year for doing nothing (assuming he's honest enough to pay out, which is not a guarantee. There's no honor in thieves).

With the second, they use his interview skills and your identity to get the job, and then do nothing except get other jobs. It's remarkably hard to fire a U.S. employee without risks of lawsuits. If the employer does seem to catch on, he has a lawyer and a psychiatrist on the payroll too. The psychiatrist produces a doctor's note that you are disabled, the lawyer threatens to sue if you are fired. "You" go on disability, where you can stay for up to a year and they can't fire you. Collect the salary, move on after the year. In the meantime, "you" (or the organization using your identity) has done the same thing to hundreds of other corporations. I personally know 2 managers that have been victimized by this scam.

In all 3 cases, you're not the direct victim of the scam. They're using your identity as a shield to legitimize the scam. When it's discovered, it's you who suffer the reputational risk and/or criminal charges.

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