Join the W3C Exploration Interest Group: where standards start

https://www.w3.org/blog/2025/join-the-w3c-exploration-interest-group-where-standards-start/

33•pentagrama•3h ago

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zb3•2h ago

Standards start at Google nowadays..

Y-bar•2h ago

… And that's clearly a major concern because my front end developer colleagues treat everything that Google does as the one true way of the web. No matter if it is accepted into a standards body, or if the Chrome implementation is buggy, that is their target and every other browser is an after-thought at best.

Etheryte•1h ago

I think this misses the point. If the vast majority of your users use something Chromium based, that's where you should put most of your effort. It doesn't matter if it's the right way or whatnot, your users only care about whether it works for them or not. Users don't care about the technicalities.

fuzzzerd•46m ago

While true and a pragmatic approach, that's another part of the same root problem.

zcw100•35m ago

Historically nothing has changed just who’s on top. Mosaic, Netscape, IE, Chrome…

zelon88•34m ago

Considering the HTML provided by google dot com has 19 warnings and a Content-Security-Policy error for a page that only has a text field and a logo, I'm gonna take my chances and apply to become a W3C invited expert.

hnuser123456•2h ago

I think we should have a standard for browser extensions that allows extensions to inspect and drop requests for unwanted ad resources.

bryanlarsen•2h ago

AFAICT, the W3C produces 2 types of standards:

- standards they write themselves that everyone ignores - standards they copy from the WHATWG

wizzwizz4•1h ago

Which is ActivityPub?

bryanlarsen•1h ago

If that's your best example of a well used w3c native standard, thanks for helping me prove my point.

robto•1h ago

I think the RDF standards have produced many useful tools for those that work with graph data. And the W3C is a useful coordination place for new standards like Verifiable Credentials[0] and Decentralized identifiers[1] and JSON Linked Data[2], which are all being used in ActivityPub, Bluesky, and a lot of other decentralizing projects.

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verifiable_credentials [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decentralized_identifier [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JSON-LD

rhdunn•1h ago

The CSS and specs are maintained by W3C and are widely implemented by browsers. Likewise for the WAI-ARIA, WCAG, MathML, and SVG specs.

The XML and related specs are implemented by various applications and libraries even if web browsers dislike these specs. -- They are used a lot in document publishing workflows that use formats like JATS, and are supported by various tools and libraries.

SVG is widely supported in vector graphics applications and rendering tools.

And WHATWG hasn't just co-opted W3C specs -- it's also co-opted encoding, URIs and others from places like the RFCs.

magicalist•1h ago

> standards they write themselves that everyone ignores

CSS, WAI-ARIA, SVG, WebGPU, WebAuthn...and a large number of APIs that are referenced as part of the HTML spec but developed and standardized by different W3C groups.

> standards they copy from the WHATWG

Not for six years now: https://www.w3.org/blog/2019/w3c-and-whatwg-to-work-together...

Lots of hn people need to update their priors about modern web standardization work.

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