And we have some of the most expensive electricity in the US.
If you can charge at home, electric is much cheaper. I don't know about "public" charging, since I don't use it.
And sure, you might have a legit reason to need a full-size pickup for commuting, but that doesn't apply to 90% of people who actually commute with full-size pickups.
The more recent Trump alignment is just icing on the cake (or fly ash for your concrete, if you want to strain the metaphor)
Plus, Plaid mode
Of all the articles and podcasts I followed around that acquisition, this is the first time I have ever heard it tied to the Babylon bee. Do you have a source?
And also
https://www.dailywire.com/news/elon-musk-contacted-the-babyl...
The Democrats are that bad, huh.
That's a bullshit excuse. Who knows about the future, but for the last 30 years the Democrats have been perfectly free and have had ample opportunity to counter any "propaganda" against them. If their association taints popular policies in the eyes of the Americans, the party is, at a minimum, incompetent.
And what does it say about Democrats that Americans rejected them to chose a "dangerous clown" instead?
it turns out, a few thousand years of civilization isn't enough to evolve significant growth in the prefrontal cortex or atrophy in the lizard-brain, so to speak
we're not much more rational than cavemen, and thus biologically as likely as them to break stuff when angry or be fooled by those who promise salvation
unfortunately, some seek to exploit those vulnerabilities: making the promises; feeding the anger; manufacturing stress & FUD to decrease decision quality
But countering propaganda is way harder than spreading propaganda. It's easier to spread all over right-wing media that Democrats are working tirelessly to protect an MS13 gang member than to protect due process and the rule of law for all Americans while defending a man that most likely has no ties to MS13 or crime in general and was wrongly deported.
It's like the Fox news defamation case loss against Dominion. They spread those lies (while knowing they were lies) for weeks and millions of Americans believed them. Those same Americans have no idea they paid close to a $1 billion settlement for those lies.
Propaganda fits nicely in 3 sentence memes that are designed to invoke fear and emotion but is hard to counter without long and sometimes complex explanations that involve nuance.
How many conservative still believe there are public elementary classrooms that have litter boxes for kids to identify as cats?
Americans still think other countries pay for Trump's tariffs. Why? Because it's easy for Trump to tweet lies 40 times per day about how good tariffs are and it's finely time for these countries "to pay their fair share". How easy is it to counter with a rational and thoughtful economic discussion of why the tariffs will fail to achieve any stated goal?
The democratic party gerontocracy is a problem - they really seem to want to just play politics and get individual people re-elected in many cases - but we really do have a propaganda problem in addition to a batch of senior democrats wholly unprepared to face the moment.
I’d love to have a Tesla, for the torque and for the simplicity of the drive train. I don’t think I’m a rarity.
The best thing Musk can do is disappear, maybe go to Mars or something for a while...
No. The damage to Tesla's reputation has already been done, and the only way to fix it is for the board to fire Elon Musk as CEO.
> Listings for the Model 3 have increased by 63%; those for the Model Y have rocketed by 80%. The pattern can be seen in both left-leaning states, such as Massachusetts and New York, and right-leaning ones, such as Indiana and South Carolina.
Many Democrats live in red states and many Republicans live in red states. It may be true that Republicans are selling their Teslas in increasing numbers, but this isn't a convincing argument. Even in a red state, I would expect EV owners to be mostly Democrats.
That's not even to mention the business itself in how he has failed to ever produce a successful product at Tesla since he purchased it (the Cybertruck is the only project not already started at acquisition).
And if he just said "sowwy fow weelsies", you'd be okay with that? Are you kidding me?
Is everyone just completely and totally ideologically bankrupt now? Does nobody have a single shred of common sense to avoid huksters?
If I were a Tesla shareholder, I'd be pessimistic about the company's future as long as Elon's name is associated with the brand.
They were a highly successful company that made some of the most popular cars, but now their brand is toxic solely because of the actions of their CEO. Tesla is would be much better off without him.
Any links?
That would mess with environmental arguments per dollar or km.
Using statewide average gas and electricity prices as of a couple weeks ago or so (whenever I last grabbed the data) a pure ICE RAV4 has a lower energy cost per mile than a Tesla Model Y (the trim with the highest MPGs) there on the highway. The Tesla still wins in the city.
Change that Toyota to a RAV4 Hybrid (non-plug in) and then the RAV4 wins both highway and city.
Go for a Prius and then there are 8 states where the Prius beats the Tesla on both city and highway (Connecticut, Hawaii, Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New York, Rhode Island, and Vermont). There are two where the Prius wins highway but not city: California and New Jersey.
The states most favorable to EVs are Washington, Idaho, North Dakota, Utah, Nebraska, Oregon, Wyoming, Montana, Nevada, Missouri, South Dakota, Iowa, Arkansas, Louisiana, and Oklahoma.
In those states gas prices would have to fall about 60% (Washington) to 35% (Oklahoma) for the Prius to win.
It's interesting that most of the states where energy prices most favor EVs are red states.
Note: the above was using residential electricity prices. For people that can't charge at home the Prius will win a lot more. Around here the best commercial charging is about twice what residential charging costs. If that holds elsewhere then I think only about 8 states would have the Tesla come out ahead of the Prius.
My residential rate is $0.11 per kWh and $0.56 at an electrify America charger. That’s a steep hike for those who can’t install a charger at home.
Waking up in the morning to a fully charged car, for a fraction of a gallon of gas ($4.60 here) and never having to stop and fill-up or charge is a dream.
Maybe in the USA. But I don't think it would make much of a difference in a lot of countries. It is still an American car with a stained past.
in 2012 when the supercharger network plans were announced - just about everyone :)
mikestew•9mo ago