frontpage.
newsnewestaskshowjobs

Made with ♥ by @iamnishanth

Open Source @Github

fp.

Open in hackernews

Ask HN: Is there a general, multi-PL programming task dataset?

1•quartztz•1y ago
Hello!

Being a student interested in PL design, I have had this idea floating around for a while: the gist is finding out what programming languages LLMs might be the most proficient in, to study their design choices and syntactic features with the goal of designing the perfect language for LLMs. This is, of course, gimmicky, but I entertained the idea for a while as a fun afterschool project.

The challenge is: what would be the best way to evaluate programming performance _in specific languages_? There are two main hypotheses here:

1. There are intrinsic syntactic/structural features that the transformer architecture is uniquely able to parse/reproduce/understand best, leading to higher quality code generated. For example: Lisp dialects make parsing code structure and blocks very easy, so one could assume an LLM can "understand their code better" 2. There is so much Python/JS out there that the question isn't even worth asking, and the performance in those will beat whatever other language you throw at it. This is probably not as much of a point thanks to newer transformer architectures but the question is still up.

I suspect the answer can be made somewhat interesting by considering performance relative to language popularity, but the ground question is: is there a general dataset containing different programming challenges, of varying difficulty, in multiple languages, with standard solutions? I couldn't find anything when I looked around, but I might have missed something obvious. It wouldn't be impossible to build a simple website to crowdsource, but I'm thinking that if I missed something obvious I'd rather find out early than late. Also, if you have any input on the project itself, I'd love to hear your ideas!

Comments

Someone•1y ago
> For example: Lisp dialects make parsing code structure and blocks very easy, so one could assume an LLM can "understand their code better"

I would expect the reverse: lisp has no syntactic sugar, making it harder for a LLM to glue code fragments together in a way that produces valid lisp code. Even guaranteeing that parentheses are correctly nested already can be a challenge.

As to a set of programs: they aren’t exactly what you’re looking for, but I would consider https://projecteuler.net (does not contain solutions, but searching for project Euler solutions” finds some) or https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame.

sargstuff•1y ago
Very open ended questions. Geeks for Geeks loosely organized around computer science topics of study : https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/

nit-pick details:

Ignoring hardware differences, "performance" comparisons can be based on differences between algorithm(s) used vs. how algorithm is implimented. For a given language, "algorithm implimentation performance" can be defined as the trade-offs on how a a given algorithm is implimented in a language (compared to other programming languages, but also easy use/flexibility based on 'language generation level -> https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/generation-programming-languag... )

----------------------

1) General computation language specialty 'modules' not withstanding; "languages" are built/optimised around core algorithmic concepts / anticipated area/concentration of targeted professional environment. aka opencl (gpu), R (statistics), Lisp (engineering design), C (OS level), sql (data selection), jasper reports, cobol (business), etc. Languages tend to be 'popular' because of the ecosystem provided around/for a given language.

snarky side note -> can always write a more standard language that compiles to an esolang & provide appropriate emacs/vim/sed/spacemacs ide support.: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page

  LLM's are very useful at curating information and recognizing/summarizing "statisical" relevance. aka apl is great for engineering mind set, not so good for business use cases aka cobal.  LLM might recognize a language for a given user that combines commonly used 'apl' aspecs of user and commonly used 'cobal' aspecs of user and recommend a language(s) with suitable commonalities for given user. 


2) Search engine topic 'coding challenges' 'algorithmic coding challenges' brings up many types of answers/sites for honing one's coding skills (various languages, beginner to expert, etc). Coding 'algorithms' vs. coming up with algorithm(s) to code is sort of a side aspect. Also differences in 'competition' challenges vs. 'technical challenges' (aka 512 c64 vs. 1 raspberry pi) ; vs. "computer science coding challenges" vs. 'computational genomic challenges'

     ?? how easy / hard based on 'profession' aka artist vs. software designer 20 years experience programming in scheme; environment -- NASA vs. google vs. insurance company.

   ?? from scratch : https://synoptek.com/insights/it-blogs/10-challenges-every-software-product-developer-faces/

   ?? based on industry standards ?? ; just trying to keep skills honed ??

Hola Browser for Windows compromised to deliver cryptominer

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/hola-browser-for-windows-compromised-to-deliver-cr...
1•Brajeshwar•55s ago•0 comments

S&P and DJI indices decline changing inclusion requirements

https://press.spglobal.com/2026-06-04-S-P-Dow-Jones-Indices-Consultation-on-Treatment-of-MegaCap-...
1•wting•58s ago•0 comments

AI is designing OpenAI's next model in a sign of 'super intelligence'

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/05/softbank-masayoshi-son-openai-model-super-intelligence.html
1•geox•59s ago•0 comments

Johnny.Decimal: A system to organise your life

https://johnnydecimal.com/
1•surprisetalk•2m ago•0 comments

OpenSUSE Geeko

https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE%3AGeeko#The_original_hand_drawn_Geeko
1•skogstokig•4m ago•0 comments

ISS astronauts in evacuation mode as Russia attempts to fix widening air leak

https://www.reuters.com/science/international-space-station-astronauts-evacuation-mode-russia-att...
2•espenwa•5m ago•0 comments

Process Engineering Strategies for Microbial Lipid Production

https://www.mdpi.com/1422-0067/27/9/3760
1•PaulHoule•6m ago•0 comments

A visual introduction to kernel functions

https://kelvinpaschal.com/blog/kernel-functions/
1•Kelvinidan•6m ago•0 comments

Alarm over computer "worms" created with AI

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/alarm-over-computer-worms-created-with-ai/
1•mgh2•8m ago•0 comments

LEGO Sagrada Familia Is the Biggest Set in History, at over 12,000 Pieces

https://www.yankodesign.com/2026/06/04/the-lego-sagrada-familia-is-the-biggest-set-in-history-at-...
1•bookofjoe•8m ago•0 comments

SwiftTUI

https://snopia.net/en/blog/introducing-swifttui
2•antfarm•11m ago•1 comments

Digital Product Passports Change What You Track

https://holdmybill.com/blog/digital-product-passport-tracking
1•niksmac•11m ago•0 comments

International Space Station astronauts under evacuation orders

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2026/jun/05/international-space-station-astronauts-under-evac...
2•robin_reala•11m ago•1 comments

Detection Is Not a Strategy

https://www.cringely.com/2026/06/05/detection-is-not-a-strategy/
1•superchink•11m ago•0 comments

Crustafarianism: The religion AI agents built in 14 hours

https://mibitacora.eu/57-crustafarianismo-religion-agentes/
2•tempranillo•12m ago•1 comments

'Bear-Repelling Poles' Attracting Attention; Developed by Man Who Faced Bear

https://japannews.yomiuri.co.jp/society/general-news/20260526-329259/
2•rawgabbit•15m ago•0 comments

How to make firecracker fast(er) to start Chromium in < 20ms

https://www.kernel.sh/blog/firecracker-faster
1•juecd•15m ago•0 comments

Rave HN: Private HN rave at a loft in Manhattan

https://hallucinate.site/hn
1•stagas•16m ago•0 comments

Ascetic Computing

https://ratfactor.com/ascetic-computing
1•surprisetalk•17m ago•0 comments

China, HK Investors Banned from SpaceX IPO over Security

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-06-05/chinese-hk-investors-banned-from-spacex-ipo-on...
1•leopoldj•17m ago•0 comments

US posts another month of strong job gains in May

https://www.reuters.com/business/world-at-work/us-posts-another-month-strong-job-gains-may-unempl...
1•tcp_handshaker•18m ago•0 comments

Trump officials planned to mark 2.7M living people as dead, whistleblower claims

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/06/05/doge-planned-falsely-mark-27-million-people-de...
3•internet_points•19m ago•0 comments

Chebyshev Polynomials

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chebyshev_polynomials
1•tosh•19m ago•0 comments

How the Internet Crosses Oceans

https://www.engadget.com/2187834/how-transatlantic-internet-cables-work/
1•SanjayMehta•21m ago•0 comments

If you've ever had to defend paying down tech debt vs. feature work

https://blog.codacy.com/complete-guide-to-technical-debt-tracking-for-engineering-leaders
3•claudiacsf•22m ago•0 comments

SAIdecar, for the small questions that don't belong the main agent session

https://github.com/Deca/saidecar
1•Decag•22m ago•1 comments

Y Combinator Started (2012)

https://paulgraham.com/ycstart.html
1•chistev•22m ago•0 comments

The Next Frontier of Visual AI Is Code

https://a16z.com/the-next-frontier-of-visual-ai-is-code/
1•gmays•23m ago•0 comments

Immigrant Rights Lawyers File Lawsuit over Palantir's Elite

https://www.404media.co/immigrant-rights-lawyers-file-lawsuit-over-palantirs-elite/
1•Brajeshwar•23m ago•0 comments

Nintendo Switch 2 with user-replaceable batteries coming to the EU

https://www.tomshardware.com/video-games/nintendo/nintendo-switch-2-with-user-replaceable-batteri...
2•vrganj•24m ago•0 comments