frontpage.
newsnewestaskshowjobs

Open Source @Github

fp.

Open in hackernews

Ask HN: Is there a general, multi-PL programming task dataset?

1•quartztz•1y ago
Hello!

Being a student interested in PL design, I have had this idea floating around for a while: the gist is finding out what programming languages LLMs might be the most proficient in, to study their design choices and syntactic features with the goal of designing the perfect language for LLMs. This is, of course, gimmicky, but I entertained the idea for a while as a fun afterschool project.

The challenge is: what would be the best way to evaluate programming performance _in specific languages_? There are two main hypotheses here:

1. There are intrinsic syntactic/structural features that the transformer architecture is uniquely able to parse/reproduce/understand best, leading to higher quality code generated. For example: Lisp dialects make parsing code structure and blocks very easy, so one could assume an LLM can "understand their code better" 2. There is so much Python/JS out there that the question isn't even worth asking, and the performance in those will beat whatever other language you throw at it. This is probably not as much of a point thanks to newer transformer architectures but the question is still up.

I suspect the answer can be made somewhat interesting by considering performance relative to language popularity, but the ground question is: is there a general dataset containing different programming challenges, of varying difficulty, in multiple languages, with standard solutions? I couldn't find anything when I looked around, but I might have missed something obvious. It wouldn't be impossible to build a simple website to crowdsource, but I'm thinking that if I missed something obvious I'd rather find out early than late. Also, if you have any input on the project itself, I'd love to hear your ideas!

Comments

Someone•1y ago
> For example: Lisp dialects make parsing code structure and blocks very easy, so one could assume an LLM can "understand their code better"

I would expect the reverse: lisp has no syntactic sugar, making it harder for a LLM to glue code fragments together in a way that produces valid lisp code. Even guaranteeing that parentheses are correctly nested already can be a challenge.

As to a set of programs: they aren’t exactly what you’re looking for, but I would consider https://projecteuler.net (does not contain solutions, but searching for project Euler solutions” finds some) or https://benchmarksgame-team.pages.debian.net/benchmarksgame.

sargstuff•1y ago
Very open ended questions. Geeks for Geeks loosely organized around computer science topics of study : https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/

nit-pick details:

Ignoring hardware differences, "performance" comparisons can be based on differences between algorithm(s) used vs. how algorithm is implimented. For a given language, "algorithm implimentation performance" can be defined as the trade-offs on how a a given algorithm is implimented in a language (compared to other programming languages, but also easy use/flexibility based on 'language generation level -> https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/generation-programming-languag... )

----------------------

1) General computation language specialty 'modules' not withstanding; "languages" are built/optimised around core algorithmic concepts / anticipated area/concentration of targeted professional environment. aka opencl (gpu), R (statistics), Lisp (engineering design), C (OS level), sql (data selection), jasper reports, cobol (business), etc. Languages tend to be 'popular' because of the ecosystem provided around/for a given language.

snarky side note -> can always write a more standard language that compiles to an esolang & provide appropriate emacs/vim/sed/spacemacs ide support.: https://esolangs.org/wiki/Main_Page

  LLM's are very useful at curating information and recognizing/summarizing "statisical" relevance. aka apl is great for engineering mind set, not so good for business use cases aka cobal.  LLM might recognize a language for a given user that combines commonly used 'apl' aspecs of user and commonly used 'cobal' aspecs of user and recommend a language(s) with suitable commonalities for given user. 


2) Search engine topic 'coding challenges' 'algorithmic coding challenges' brings up many types of answers/sites for honing one's coding skills (various languages, beginner to expert, etc). Coding 'algorithms' vs. coming up with algorithm(s) to code is sort of a side aspect. Also differences in 'competition' challenges vs. 'technical challenges' (aka 512 c64 vs. 1 raspberry pi) ; vs. "computer science coding challenges" vs. 'computational genomic challenges'

     ?? how easy / hard based on 'profession' aka artist vs. software designer 20 years experience programming in scheme; environment -- NASA vs. google vs. insurance company.

   ?? from scratch : https://synoptek.com/insights/it-blogs/10-challenges-every-software-product-developer-faces/

   ?? based on industry standards ?? ; just trying to keep skills honed ??

Coding.Snapsta – 430 free, zero-dependency HTML/CSS templates without signup

https://coding.snapsta.net/lets_code/
1•SystemsX•1m ago•0 comments

Must do's for your startup culture

https://www.ubiquity.vc/blog/tim-brown-of-allbirds-3-must-do-s-for-your-startup-culture
1•ariloeg•2m ago•0 comments

I tell the IMF the Singularity has begun

https://importai.substack.com/p/import-ai-477-in-which-i-tell-the
1•gmays•3m ago•0 comments

List of Games Included with Windows

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_included_with_Windows
1•skibz•5m ago•0 comments

RDP to Your Mac

https://prordp.app
1•AndrewDucker•5m ago•0 comments

Microsoft Announces OneDrive CLI

https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-gives-onedrive-admins-a-new-command-line-tool/
1•bundie•7m ago•0 comments

Parano1d: Transparent Proof-Carrying State over Binary Tower Fields

https://zenodo.org/records/23485635
2•ignotusnemo•7m ago•0 comments

Lego Engineered the Perfect Plaything

https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/how-lego-engineered-the-perfect-plaything/
1•nadis•8m ago•0 comments

Cadence an open-source, on-device daily check-in for iOS

https://github.com/jaguero21/Cadence
1•carpebuilds•9m ago•0 comments

Show HN: A daily game where the goal is to be unpredictable to an LLM

https://notbotgame.com
1•onion92•10m ago•0 comments

ADLC: Judgment Must Move Upstream

https://sdtimes.com/agentic-development-life-cycle/adlc-why-judgment-must-move-upstream/
1•harisund1990•11m ago•0 comments

How the energy crisis could become a food security crisis

https://www.axios.com/2026/10/20/energy-crisis-food-security-crisis
2•toomuchtodo•11m ago•1 comments

Anthropic redesigned source-control for AI agents

https://www.anthropic.com/research/redesigning-source-control
2•Aelthorim•11m ago•1 comments

Everything Is Fake

https://www.patreon.com/merrittk/posts/everything-is-170652203
1•herbertl•13m ago•0 comments

How Intuitions Work

https://aeon.co/essays/sometimes-you-just-know-somethings-off-but-how
1•herbertl•14m ago•0 comments

Knowledge Comes at a Cost. What Are We Paying For?

https://katinamagazine.org/content/article/open-knowledge/2026/knowledge-comes-at-a-cost-what-are...
1•jruohonen•14m ago•0 comments

Par – A language bringing linear logic into practice

https://par.run/
1•vanyle•15m ago•0 comments

Prompt injection scanners should be positional, not phrasal

https://attest.rta.lat/article
1•vnutrivas•16m ago•0 comments

Cold starting a 32B model in 1.1s with GPU checkpoint/restore

https://numerata.com/blog/post-gpu-cold-start-checkpoint-restore
4•agcatalan•16m ago•0 comments

Mont Blanc, the 'Roof of Europe', Loses More Than a Metre of Height in a Year

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/oct/14/mont-blanc-loses-metre-height
1•karakoram•16m ago•0 comments

TC Antony on the XERJ Corpus Hub

https://hub.xerj.org/contributors/antonyrag
1•antonyragleap•16m ago•0 comments

Meta tries to scapegoat staff who downloaded torrents to spare execs

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2026/10/meta-ordered-to-name-execs-who-approved-torrenting-fo...
2•pseudolus•16m ago•0 comments

China mulls policies to accelerate smart manufacturing

https://english.www.gov.cn/news/202610/20/content_WS6ad76e83c6d00ca5f9a0dda6.html
1•embedding-shape•16m ago•0 comments

Surface Plasmon Resonance (SPR)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_plasmon_resonance
1•peter_d_sherman•17m ago•0 comments

Compass Can't Sell Enough Homes, So It's Changing the Game

https://housingnotes.com/p/compass-cant-sell-enough-homes-so
1•speckx•18m ago•0 comments

Latest open artifacts (#25): DeepSeek v4.1 Flash 1017, American-made models

https://www.interconnects.ai/p/latest-open-artifacts-25-deepseek
1•pretext•18m ago•0 comments

CleanMyTV – An an Built from CleanYourTV

https://github.com/wingedpanther/cleanmytv
1•vivxek•19m ago•1 comments

Apple Commits $100M to U.S.-Made Titanium for iPhone Production

https://www.mbtmag.com/operations/news/22976838/apple-commits-100m-to-usmade-titanium-for-iphone-...
1•MC995•19m ago•0 comments

Qualcomm to cut jobs worldwide in performance-focused layoffs

https://www.reuters.com/business/qualcomm-cut-jobs-worldwide-performance-focused-layoffs-internal...
1•fork-bomber•19m ago•0 comments

HoDoKu Revisited – Classic Java Sudoku Solver Ported to PWA with AI Coaching

https://hodokurevisited.com
1•ntropey•21m ago•0 comments