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The Contagious Taste of Cancer

https://www.historytoday.com/archive/history-matters/contagious-taste-cancer
1•Thevet•1m ago•0 comments

U.S. Jobs Disappear at Fastest January Pace Since Great Recession

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikestunson/2026/02/05/us-jobs-disappear-at-fastest-january-pace-sin...
1•alephnerd•1m ago•0 comments

Bithumb mistakenly hands out $195M in Bitcoin to users in 'Random Box' giveaway

https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/news/2026-02-07/business/finance/Crypto-exchange-Bithumb-mis...
1•giuliomagnifico•1m ago•0 comments

Beyond Agentic Coding

https://haskellforall.com/2026/02/beyond-agentic-coding
1•todsacerdoti•2m ago•0 comments

OpenClaw ClawHub Broken Windows Theory – If basic sorting isn't working what is?

https://www.loom.com/embed/e26a750c0c754312b032e2290630853d
1•kaicianflone•4m ago•0 comments

OpenBSD Copyright Policy

https://www.openbsd.org/policy.html
1•Panino•5m ago•0 comments

OpenClaw Creator: Why 80% of Apps Will Disappear

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uzGDAoNOZc
1•schwentkerr•9m ago•0 comments

What Happens When Technical Debt Vanishes?

https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/11316905
1•blenderob•10m ago•0 comments

AI Is Finally Eating Software's Total Market: Here's What's Next

https://vinvashishta.substack.com/p/ai-is-finally-eating-softwares-total
2•gmays•10m ago•0 comments

Computer Science from the Bottom Up

https://www.bottomupcs.com/
2•gurjeet•11m ago•0 comments

Show HN: I built a toy compiler as a young dev

https://vire-lang.web.app
1•xeouz•13m ago•0 comments

You don't need Mac mini to run OpenClaw

https://runclaw.sh
1•rutagandasalim•13m ago•0 comments

Learning to Reason in 13 Parameters

https://arxiv.org/abs/2602.04118
1•nicholascarolan•15m ago•0 comments

Convergent Discovery of Critical Phenomena Mathematics Across Disciplines

https://arxiv.org/abs/2601.22389
1•energyscholar•16m ago•1 comments

Ask HN: Will GPU and RAM prices ever go down?

1•alentred•16m ago•0 comments

From hunger to luxury: The story behind the most expensive rice (2025)

https://www.cnn.com/travel/japan-expensive-rice-kinmemai-premium-intl-hnk-dst
2•mooreds•17m ago•0 comments

Substack makes money from hosting Nazi newsletters

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi...
5•mindracer•18m ago•2 comments

A New Crypto Winter Is Here and Even the Biggest Bulls Aren't Certain Why

https://www.wsj.com/finance/currencies/a-new-crypto-winter-is-here-and-even-the-biggest-bulls-are...
1•thm•18m ago•0 comments

Moltbook was peak AI theater

https://www.technologyreview.com/2026/02/06/1132448/moltbook-was-peak-ai-theater/
1•Brajeshwar•19m ago•0 comments

Why Claude Cowork is a math problem Indian IT can't solve

https://restofworld.org/2026/indian-it-ai-stock-crash-claude-cowork/
2•Brajeshwar•19m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Built an space travel calculator with vanilla JavaScript v2

https://www.cosmicodometer.space/
2•captainnemo729•19m ago•0 comments

Why a 175-Year-Old Glassmaker Is Suddenly an AI Superstar

https://www.wsj.com/tech/corning-fiber-optics-ai-e045ba3b
1•Brajeshwar•19m ago•0 comments

Micro-Front Ends in 2026: Architecture Win or Enterprise Tax?

https://iocombats.com/blogs/micro-frontends-in-2026
2•ghazikhan205•21m ago•1 comments

These White-Collar Workers Actually Made the Switch to a Trade

https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/careers/white-collar-mid-career-trades-caca4b5f
1•impish9208•22m ago•1 comments

The Wonder Drug That's Plaguing Sports

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/02/us/ostarine-olympics-doping.html
1•mooreds•22m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Which chef knife steels are good? Data from 540 Reddit tread

https://new.knife.day/blog/reddit-steel-sentiment-analysis
1•p-s-v•22m ago•0 comments

Federated Credential Management (FedCM)

https://ciamweekly.substack.com/p/federated-credential-management-fedcm
1•mooreds•23m ago•0 comments

Token-to-Credit Conversion: Avoiding Floating-Point Errors in AI Billing Systems

https://app.writtte.com/read/kZ8Kj6R
1•lasgawe•23m ago•1 comments

The Story of Heroku (2022)

https://leerob.com/heroku
1•tosh•23m ago•0 comments

Obey the Testing Goat

https://www.obeythetestinggoat.com/
1•mkl95•24m ago•0 comments
Open in hackernews

Google is killing software support for early Nest Thermostats

https://www.theverge.com/news/656332/google-ending-support-nest-thermostats
14•ohmyblock•9mo ago

Comments

floundy•9mo ago
I refuse to invest in anything in the Google ecosystem at this point; any app, software, or hardware you use can clearly be discontinued at the whim of the C-suite getting pitched by some PM trying to justify why they deserve to be a team lead for Google's 8th chat or messaging app.
iamdelirium•9mo ago
Do you refuse to get iPhones because older models are no longer supported? Because this is the same thing.
toomuchtodo•9mo ago
Apple has a long track record of extended support for older iPhone hardware while Google has a long track record of destroying any goodwill around hardware investment by consumers. OP is right, you have to be willfully ignorant at this point to buy into any Google consumer hardware ecosystem.

Better to purchase from a company that’s business is what you’re buying, not a labs project at the mercy of whomever is floating through Google upper management at the time (imho).

https://www.macworld.com/article/675021/how-long-does-apple-...

https://killedbygoogle.com/

iamdelirium•9mo ago
These products were release in 2011-2013. No iPhones from those era are currently supported by Apple. These products were in fact supported much longer than Apple.
toomuchtodo•9mo ago
I’m demonstrating patterns. Ecobee supported its first thermostat for 16 years [1]. They do because they have to, it’s their core business (like Apple does for hardware, again, a core business), Google doesn’t, these are not core businesses. If you want to argue “Google does care and provides reasonable periods of consumer hardware device support,” I don’t believe that’s what the evidence shows.

I’m not mad at the lawnmower [2], it just is what it is. Google doesn’t care and likely never will, because of the incentive structure and culture of the org. “Does it hyper scale? Can we ignore the customers? Ship it.”

[1] https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/2/24147154/ecobee-smart-ther...

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5170246

iamdelirium•9mo ago
In the example I gave you above. Apple released the iPhone 5 in 2011, the same year as the Nest 2n gen. Does Apple support the iPhone 5 anymore? Using the company you provided, you are holding Google to a much higher standard than Apple.
floundy•9mo ago
I think smartphones are the one exception as a "necessary evil" at this point in the first world.

However, we are talking about a thermostat here. When I bought my house, there were 40+ year old mechanical thermostats on the wall. I swapped them out because they were ugly and not programmable. I put in "dumb" Honeywell thermostats that don't connect to the internet and don't require software updates. Possibly they'll be here in 40 years, though I wouldn't be surprised if some capacitor or something fails, maybe I'll only get 20 years out of them.

Anyway, as a long-time Google user I've just been through this cycle too many times, mostly with web and phone apps, to seriously invest in them. The convenience of having everything in one place, in Google's cloud, also needs to be weighed against the annoyance of migrating things and learning new features whenever they decide to kill something off. If Obsidian dies, I'll take my .md notes to another editor. When Google Keep dies, who knows if stuff will carry forward or break like the Notes->Keep transition did for me.

dreamcompiler•9mo ago
I threw my first-gen Nest thermostat in the trash about 5 years ago after one too many UI changes and at least one bricking incident (later fixed) after an unwanted update.

I replaced it with a super basic Honeywell mercury thermometer, which will almost certainly still be working 100 years from now.

RyanShook•9mo ago
My Nest (2014) is working perfectly fine but I'm required to pay for a new model. Apparently, heating and cooling a three-bedroom home requires more advanced technology...
inyorgroove•9mo ago
I am in the same boat, but apparently it will continue to work. Downside is no more remote control. Editing the schedule via the thermostat is really going to be the real pain point. Though the app/website stopped working for me 6 or more months ago anyway, only the google home app still worked for basic temperature set.
whichken•9mo ago
Not sure why I'm surprised. I'm actually quite surprised Google didn't do this sooner, being Google and all. I bought my Nest before the acquisition and held out as long as I could before they forced me to migrate my Nest account to a Google account.

I understand not wanting to support old hardware forever, but is it really that hard to lock this device down enough to only accept commands from Google servers? I just want to be able to tweak the temperature at night without getting out of bed.

I certainly won't be replacing it with their new model, even if they are offering a reasonable discount. I hear good things about Ecobee...

drweevil•9mo ago
Wait, isn't AI supposed to make something like providing software support easy and inexpensive? Does Google not fancy itself an AI company? So what possibly can be the excuse for this anti-social behaviour?

The backlash will come.

ohmyblock•9mo ago
I have a Sonos Play:1 speaker from 2013 still working perfectly with no plans from Sonos to change that. My Nest thermostat from same year will lose app and home/away features which I would say is over 50% of its current functionality, for a device that I bought for 250€. I wonder what Tony Fadell thinks about this.
ohmyblock•9mo ago
They could at least open the device and allow open source firmware (e.g. esphome)