I see lots of sedans in the street made by companies like Tesla, BMW and Mercedes-Benz. Maybe the sedan just became a bit more upmarket than it used to be.
Basically a “hate on Obama” hit piece. Fucking snore.
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Ever wonder why sedans disappeared and every car is huge now?
"Thanks, Obama!"
His administration changed fuel economy standards in a way that had the perverse impact of making cars even bigger.
Here are all the vehicles for sale by the 3 largest US automakers. 62 vehicles, 4 sedans (6%). 20 years ago this chart would have been ~50% sedans!
What happened?
Obama administration changed auto fuel efficiency rules to tie fuel economy targets to vehicle size.
Under the new system: -The bigger the car's footprint, the easier the MPG target was. -Light trucks (including SUVs and crossovers) had far lower requirements than passenger cars. -Crossovers were quietly reclassified as "trucks," giving them a huge regulatory advantage.
Instead of building lighter, more efficient cars, automakers simply made everything bigger, and made more trucks and SUVs.
Notice that cars that used to be sedans are now crossovers? They do this so it counts as a light truck - they raise ground clearance, square off the rear for cargo capacity, and meet off-road approach minimums so they get qualified as a light truck. Think Subaru Legacy > Subaru Outback.
As you can see in the chart, it's a LOT easier to meet MPG requirements if your vehicle is classified that way.
So cars got LARGER to meet fuel efficiency goals. The new Honda Civic is 20 inches longer and 4 inches wider than it used to be, about the same size as an old Accord. By making the Civic larger, Honda slightly shifted it into a more favorable regulatory category.
...and smaller cars disappeared. The Honda Fit was a great little car, but would have had to hit 67 MPG in 2026, which would be nearly impossible... so instead, Honda stopped selling them.
So, the only way to make small vehicles now is to make them EV's (Chevy Bolt).
The Slate truck that is all the rage now is only possible because it's an EV... otherwise its footprint would have demanded an overly onerous MPG target.
So in short - Obama era CAFE standards had the opposite of the desired impact: sedans died, vehicles ballooned in size, and America's streets turned into an SUV parking lot.
All thanks to a policy that accidentally incentivized bloat instead of efficiency.
Don't get me started on "cash for clunkers!"
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Seems a bit disingenuous blaming a president who had heavy opposition from a republican majority for most of his tenure. Doing nothing would also have been frowned upon. Compromises can have unintended consequences but maybe this was the best he could do?
There are hatchbacks, SUVs and light trucks. Sedans have become far less common.
It'd be interesting to compare with Western Europe.
Which would suggest it's a wider trend and not just Obama at fault.
I'd suggest people getting older and bigger (both height and width) has had an impact. It's just easier to get in taller cars for some people, like my in laws.
Relative wealth (there used to be a lot more tiny cars for basic economic reasons).
And a safety arms race caused by other cars being bigger for the above reasons.
The reason people prefer other types kf cars to sedans is that for similar money you can get something that is more practical. Unfortunately, CAFE has perversely incentivised car makers to make those alternatives bigger than sedans. But, unfortunately, even in EU the consumers seem to prefer crossovers, almost to the point where they are getting cheaper than their hatchback/wagon alternatives.
Living in germany and italy in both countries I see the exact same trend.
I myself drive a sedan, a Volvo S60. It is a gorgeous car and I always get compliments for it, but the seller (who is a very big one) only sold one S60 in several years. It is also the least sold car by Volvo, as far as I know.
So how is this Obamas fault again?
1. It doesn't actually seem that much higher than the actual Honda Jazz Hybrid mpg gets.
2. Does CAFE dictate individual cars? I thought it was a fleet average.
3. The Fit was withdrawn from NA market (and phased out in some others) in 2020, due to low demand in the sub-compact segment according to Honda.
4. It's not a sedan.
I'd like to see that assertion actually supported with evidence.
Making a heavier car, with higher ground clearance, and a less aerodynamic shape (squared rear) means it will get less mpg by default.
So what makes it easier to hit the mpg target vs a sedan?
I had to go and double check because a fact I was certain of was the PT Cruiser was designed to be classified as a light truck in order to require a lower CAFE standard, far before the 2008 reform. I’m sure there are many examples of this. The system in general is gamed aggressively. I can give a recent example:
The Honda CR-V. Look at the front bumpers of a European and US spec car
European: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Honda_CR...
US: https://file.kelleybluebookimages.com/kbb/base/house/2012/20...
The difference in front bumpers is due to a front approach angle requirement in CAFE’s regulations (18 degrees, off the top of my head?) to get a light truck classification.
Footprint isn’t really the issue. It’s related, and certainly why cars are getting bigger than they once were, but to my understanding the bounds of footprint for each classification hasn’t changed since the legislation was brought in, while cars are ballooning regardless. I think part of it is just consumer preference for more car.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_average_fuel_economy
[2] https://web.archive.org/web/20081216085824/http://www.nhtsa....
Havoc•8h ago
Let me guess - the fantastic bribery system I mean lobbying system at work?
ThrowawayR2•4h ago