Yes, of course. That's why so many city dwellers drive massive F-150s unlikely ever to haul anything heftier than a couple of bags of mulch.
F150 owners at least pretends to be a real truckers by ya know.... Having a real truck.
The cybertruck has a vastly higher tow capacity and much higher payload than a ranger or Colorado or many other pickups. It has a bigger bed than all of those too.
What doesn’t it do that you need it to?
Are you claiming that the Cybertruck is aiming at the low-end Ranger or Colorado market?
People aren't upgrading to a F150 or Silverado to "compete" with a Ranger or Colorado. They're doing it so that they can cosplay having a better truck than the people who "only" bought a Ranger, Colorado, or Maverick. (Or maybe they're actually people who can use the full-sized truck like a F150. But as a city dweller I 100% admit that most of what I see in my area are cosplayers).
This is important because the F150 Lightning is right there and available as a competitor, and somehow launched years before the Cybertruck despite being announced afterwards.
Not at all. I was asking how you define “real truck” (which you didn’t do), and asking if a ranger or Colorado is a real truck.
What does the F150 lightning do that the cybertruck doesn’t?
I’ve never driven either, but on paper they seem pretty equal.
They are obviously not in the category of an F150. No where close.
And expecting me to continue a serious discussion if you can't tell the difference between a Ranger and an F150 is... asking for a bit much.
I’m also asking what the f150 lightning does that the cyber truck doesn’t?
Are they both not real trucks? Why/ why not.
When stating your opinion it’s helpful to give reasons and expand your ideas, otherwise you’re just blurting stuff out randomly. Bring people with you, instead of just attacking them when they ask for more clarification.
Read the original post. F150. Not a Ranger. Not a Colorado. I'm not even sure why you're bringing the other ones up.
It's not that hard to tell the difference between a Ranger and F150. And if you need me to spell it out for you, then that's probably something YOU need to figure out on your own.
Regardless, you also won’t answer why the f150 lightning is superior to the cybertruck. It’s pretty clear you have no idea, you are just saying “huur duur cybertruck bad”
If you do actually have useful thoughts, please do enlighten us.
If they can learn lessons it should help them in the future with their unboxed construction of cyber cab and hopefully something else smaller and cheaper.
Elon also said a while back if it doesn’t sell they’ll make a more normal looking version. But of course he says a lot of things.
But I was really glad to see what a beating the F150 could take and ... keep on truckin'. At least they haven't forgotten the truck part as they've turned them into overpriced passenger vehicles. The old trucks we used to have a the "ranch" - a Chevy, a Ford and a Dodge for good measure - with their bench seat and basic amenities and 8 foot truck bed - really took a lot of abuse to the point of being loaded with 2x their rated payload capacity... and kept on truckin'.
The profits from it's core auto business died last quarter (down 70%) and there is no good reason for them to return any time soon.
The small profit it reported came from selling government sponsored emission credits to other manufacturers.
Wall Street investors cheered the good news. The stock rose about 25%. Clearly, they are smoking hopium. Go figure.
At this rate, Musk will lose every first mover advantage he had within a couple of years. Maybe he should go on an apology tour saying that ketamine wasn't all it cracked up to be...?
If you don't make the vehicles you can't get the credit.
Without emission credits/sales, they would have reported a net loss.
Not at all in line for a "growth stock" with a P/E of 150.
So the author fulfilled a version of Goodwin's Law, "as an article criticizing Tesla\Musk grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."
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