I could understand if they "rethought" how indicators work, but why make everyone jump through the hoop of installing an extension? (At least that is how it is on Arch and NixOS, Ubuntu may be different).
Other than this, I absolutely love Gnome, I feel 0 need to tweak (other than before mentioned), some nicer tiling would be nice thought ;) Also: Requiring an App Indicator seems a bit harsh on the more minimal DEs. Are there any apps that are like a window but with your indicators or something?
Yes, and the API isn't very complex so you could easily write your own indicator host if you wanted to anyway.
My workflow is: Upload/backup often, Download only manually to continue working on the thing from another machine.
When you use the SSH port 23 instead of 22 you can use the regular authorized_keys mechanism for authentication.
Also their client encryption feature was so slow as to make it unusable.
(This was on their Linux client)
But, for anyone on a site literally called "Hacker News", a DIY dropbox should be trivial. The fact that anybody, especially, "nerds" or "hackers" would pay good money for what is effectively an FTP server with file versioning is insane.
I am mostly jealous that I didn't build and sell dropbox. Becoming an overnight millionaire by setting up an FTP server.
But seriously, modern approach, rclone[1] + "cloud" stoage (webdav, ssh, wasabi, whatever)
Other options like OneDrive don't have such capability on Linux or are not available there at all. It's very hard to find a suitable alternative especially a European one.
A window manager is part of a desktop environment.
A desktop environment is usually made up of:
- A window manager (i.e. kwin, xfwm, i3, etc.)
- A file manager (i.e. Dolphin, Nautalis, etc.)
- Other utilities, such as a network configuration tool, a print config tool, maybe a web browser, a calendar or PIM system, calculator, etc.
Also, in one company where im the IT guy, ive been self hosting a Seafile instance for years without problems.
So there are plenty of alternatives out there.
Question though: I guess it's not end-to-end encrypted?
"Nextcloud features an enterprise-grade, seamlessly integrated solution for end-to-end encryption. It enables users to pick one or more folders on their desktop or mobile client for end-to-end encryption. Folders can be shared with other users and synced between devices but are not readable by the server. "[1]
EDIT: so i just checked, it seems Hetzner doesnt have the E2E option that Nextcloud has switched on, since it's deemed unstable. so one could use a tool like Cryptomator to encrypt folders locally and send that folder to the cloud [2]
Yeah I already use restic, which I believe is similar (E2EE backups to cloud). But I don't need Nextcloud for that :).
I was actually interested in the Hetzner managed Nextcloud for e.g. my family, so that I can move them away from Google Drive/iCloud. I can't reasonably ask my family to use cryptomator or restic :D.
I recently started using the Hetzner Storage Share: https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-share/
Basically, it's just managed Nextcloud (so you're not vendor locked and if you want you can just get a VPS and host Nextcloud directly too), works okay, pricing seems fine, though there is the occasional downtime when they do updates between the versions or need to do maintenance.
Overall, would recommend at least looking at it.
From the article. So presumably this doesn’t affect you
I made a synced folder of my entire workspace folder and now I have automatic backup and sync between laptop and desktop. No thinking, it just works.
Filen.io is e2ee and has all kinds of nice features besides sync. For example you can mount it as a network drive but it mounts some clever localhost drive that the app spawns that does caching and conflict resolution. They also support rclone and it will be soon provider in regular rclone releases. Downside is that because e2ee it doesnt yet have teams/shared folders (its very anticipated feature in progress).
The other one i can recommend is kDrive from infomaniak. We use that for work and its probably best 1to1 dropbox replacement. It has “offline” virtual files and its pretty affordable. The only downside is that the sharing between users is not as smooth ux wise as dropbox and its not e2ee.
Should your setup need it, might be able to hack support through env vars. Innovation, everyone.
System tray has been with us since Windows 95
I use Linux and don't have a taskbar, a topbar, a sysbar, nor anything similar. I've never seen the need for one when I can manage my windows in other ways and have more screen real estate available. What does that have to do with syncing my files?
I wonder whether Dropbox looked at some stats and realised that many of their users are on beginner-friendly distros/desktops and that such a requirement would help (them) more than it would hurt (users).
The earliest one I remember was when they discovered spatial memory and promptly decided that, by default, every Nautilus folder should open in a new top-level window, cluttering up my desktop before I could even start working.
I have temperature and network gauges on the top right next to my battery/audio/WiFi indicators. My work laptop (Ubuntu) has indicators up there for Livepatch and Mattermost, or are these not the same thing?
As far as I recall, I've not had to do anything particularly special other than install the extension for the thing I want, Freon etc, and the Livepatch and Mattermost ones were just there whether I wanted them or not.
It's possible I did something when I setup Gnome on my personal laptop (Arch) but other machines are running Ubuntu and I think it just did this OOB.
Doesn't change the feature was already there, with Win32 APIs to interact with it.
The uproar for little details like this, is why Linux Desktop is never going to make it on mainstream.
I don't care so much about Linux Desktop becoming mainstream. Probably it would make it look more like those OSes I like less. I don't really get those comments I regularly see where people go "if you don't make it look like Windows, people won't migrate to your distro". If I wanted Windows, I would use Windows. And I don't want people who want Windows to come to my distro.
But I don't think it's related to the Desktop environment, is it? Somehow I feel like many people who complain about Linux not being "mainstream material" want Windows, but free and without ads/trackers.
I don't want Windows, I want freedom. Freedom to choose my init system, my window manager, my filesystem, my terminal, hell even my libc.
The thing is, I don't think it can happen with a mainstream system. The industry won't care about supporting Linux unless there is critical mass, and in order to have critical mass you have to onboard all those people who want Windows (but free), not Linux. Already now, too many projects only work with the latest Ubuntu and assume systemd and some specific dependencies.
If Ubuntu were to become mainstream, instead of having Windows, macOS and Linux I fear we would have Windows, macOS, Ubuntu and Linux. Not sure it would change anything for me.
"The Dropbox app can also run in headless mode, once you meet the essential system requirements [64 bit, supported filesystem, Glibc 2.27+]. This runs without a graphical user interface. You can install the app, then control Dropbox using the Linux Command Line Interface (CLI)."
Moved to Nextcloud and never felt better.
I can see how people like a "dropbox" icon, especially Dropbox, as it makes them stand out but also I can see how it does not fit with the Gnome idea of consistency.
I used to be conditioned to using certain apps via their status icon as that was the only way to interact with them but as a long time user of Gnome I don't miss them now and use apps like syncthing-gtk via the app and notifications just fine. So for me, if I was a dropbox user, this would feel like a step backwards.
https://wiki.gnome.org/Initiatives(2f)StatusIconMigration(2f... https://wiki.gnome.org/Initiatives(2f)StatusIconMigration(2f...
Too bad, because I like a lot of the rest of the Gnome UI. But this pattern is the wrong way to go imo.
With syncthing-gtk, how do you quickly pause/continue sync for example? Do you need to open the whole damn thing just to do one simple action?
butz•9mo ago
Only Unity and KDE Plasma desktop environments are supported, others, e.g. GNOME, XFCE, MATE will require installing an extension or plugin.
eru•9mo ago
(I normally use XMonad, and it's very far from a complete desktop environment. It's only a fairly minimal window manager.)
sakjur•9mo ago
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throwaway314155•9mo ago
This was the reason I switched to KDE Plasma, which is excellent these days.
Longhanks•9mo ago
throwaway314155•9mo ago
We are in agreement. No need to twist words about to make it seem like we aren't.
rkangel•9mo ago