(*statistically a drug addict, criminal or prostitute)
It also helps that my tattoos are wholly original, i.e. not based on some trend, and that I chose the subject matter specifically because I didn’t think it was possible to hate it later on (a dinosaur and a 4d hypercube). Like, am I ever going to hate dinosaurs? I’ve loved them for 40ish years already.
It hurts a ton. It bleeds a lot
It wasn't intolerable pain, but it's not "not that bad" either
Obviously circumstances may change if the tattoo is offensive.
If when I get older and those memories mean less to me, the tattoos will become markers of who I was and what was once important to me. I could see myself getting some of them removed, but I don't think it's likely.
Because of the way my brain is, it's difficult for me to stay attached to the past. Having permanent marks on my body makes the past unforgettable, inescapable. I like to think it's made an improvement on the person I've become, but of course it's impossible to know.
Now lately I feel like the speed on which trends are born and die, the non-stop over sharing, and that constant itch for "what's next" is really pushing us all to become these kind of formless blobs, scared to show any real "edges." For example:
- Cars all kinda look the same now and are mostly some shade of grey. Same deal with phones and pretty much all tech.
- Buying clothes with bland colors with almost no originality with the expectation that it will probably be in the bin the next season.
- The whole clean girl aesthetic on putting in a ton of effort to look like you put in zero effort.
- And don't get me started on how sad beige parenting is not a joke
You only live once, there's no scoreboard at the end. Just do what you want with your life. More often than you'd probably like to admit, nobody really cares that much anyway.
I didn't change later. I had another artist expand the design about ten years ago. And while it had some meaning when I got the first round, I've realized over time that it means a whole lot more to me as I've learned more about myself.
But when someone asks me what it means, I just shrug it off. I'm not sharing that kind of thing with people.
Not everything needs a deep meaning.
They symbolize a past life to me basically, and that brings meaning and unique introspection to me in a way.
They're pretty great for vacations and events.
It's a lengthy, expensive, and often painful process. Getting shoddy work covered might be a better deal in some cases.
I think I'd put "counter culture" rather than lower class.
Now it’s “counter culture” to not have a tattoo. They are so common. They have become a sign of conformity.
38% of women vs 27% of men. The number would be higher for young women.
Tattoos say different things to different people in different times. Right now tattoos are fine in most white collar settings but this won't always be the case.
Fashion goes in cycles and all that.
we saw the same thing over a shorter period with stretched ears - a lot of people did it at the height of its popularity but have since let their piercings close (or resorted to surgery if they were past that point).
tbh, i don't really care if "squares/normies" get tattoos or weird piercings (or get them removed), but i do kinda welcome the return to "otherness" that it used to confer. i like having tattoos and piercings for their own sake. even though 99% of my tattoos are extremely stupid and i wouldn't get them today, i'm happy to keep them as a reminder of where i was in life when i got them.
EDIT: I think I misinterpreted your statement, but I'll leave my response anyway just because. I thought you meant "get" in the sense of understanding them.
I appreciate you saying this offhand for some reason, even though I don't think you were trying to give credit to others.
Naturally, I am both liberal and perhaps libertarian in the sense that I think people have a right to get tattoos and I don't have a problem with people having them.
What has long bugged me though are the numerous people who clearly get body modifications in order to attract validation from others. If one isn't in their unspoken club, they become super defensive and accusatory.
For example, as much as I have no interest in getting tattoos, I will compliment people on their tattoos that I appreciate. When inevitably asked in response why I don't have any tattoos, I tell the other person that I simply have no desire for one. When that answer isn't accepted, I sometimes (mistkenly) admit that I don't like them in general. This triggers a lot of tattoo people, even though my choice of words doesn't actually suggest that I hate all tattoos or their tattoos.
On an even more intense level, it's verboten in my society, as a man, to openly state a preference for women without tattoos. I never bring it up unless prompted, yet I often get so much blowback for this. The word "judgmental" always gets slung my way. It's pretty clear that something else is going on here when people get this defensive over something that is fairly trivial.
As far as the woman thing goes, guys have a tendency to talk about women, and sometimes the topic of tattoo'd women comes up. I've been on this planet for nearly 40 years, so while this isn't really a common conversation, I've encountered it enough times to notice recurring themes.
Head tattoos are quite cool too. This Youtuber's (https://www.youtube.com/@Gratitude.Driven) tattoos are pure art for example.
Ok, I do like her head tattoos.
I think tattoos are cool because it's art where your body is the canvas. Pure human evolution really. I'll be getting more tattoos soon.
It's definitely doable and could be a boost in confidence for some people, like it was for me.
i see more aging hipsters than ever with sleeves and they seem to keep adding, so i wonder if this is "genre" specific.
The only people I know who got a sleeve lazered off did it because they wanted to replace it, not because they wanted to be ink free.
Maybe a Sun logo could be an exception, they're not around anymore, so it feels more like nostalgia or grieving instead of "this company owns me". I wasn't around/aware when Sun was, also, so they feel more like a mythical thing from a story to me than an old company.
Those large gauge ear plugs didn’t age well AT ALL.
Tattooing got immensely popular and a lot of people who shouldn’t not have taken on apprentices took on apprentices. The quality of apprenticeships dropped and artists were getting put on skin way before they were ready. Many artists never learned proper technique or placement.
Styles changed so people were getting their first tattoos in visible places. When he started tattooing, artists wouldn’t do a first tattoo somewhere visible unless the client had a very very good reason. It always took dialogue. Now you can walk into a shop, point to flash and get it out on your neck or hand.
And finally, realism hit tattoos.
So in his opinion. You take a lot of artists who shouldn’t have been putting ink into grapefruits not skin. Put them to them to work on highly visible realistic looking art on people who don’t know enough about tattoo to know whether they’re making a mistake. And you end up with a lot of people staring at visible art that didn’t heal properly, with blown out lines and poor placement.
I didn’t get tattooed until after another good friend had finished his apprenticeship- I’m very glad I waited because I love my art and will slowly keep getting more. But I feel bad for people who fell into that trap of getting an unqualified artist to put bad art on their bodies.
People who got inked in the 90s tattoo boom are now wearing blurry smudges unless they were careful to minimize the fine detail.
Once too many people do something, it's not cool anymore.
I think everyone knew this to be true, but we are polite to people who have tattoos.
On the flip side, there are people who claim 'I don't care what they think'. And this is just an anti-social attitude in disguise of rebellion. It genuinely doesnt matter, people make split second judgements that DO affect you, even if you claim you don't care.
I've been at busy events and decided to talk to a decently dressed person over the person wearing raggy clothing. We notice patterns, often subconsciously.
Just say what you believe instead of trying to launder your opinion as generally accepted truth.
You prefer to be less beautiful and judged negatively on surface level appearances?
Yeah sureeee. I prefer to make less money, have less friends, and have less influence too /s
They don't get approached at a social event, yet they attended to meet people.
They can say as many times "Its a filter", but the filter only hurt them. Not the other way around. Its a 'Grapes are sour anyway" situation.
Less opportunities for you because you are (intentionally) ignorant of human nature.
As mentioned, people make split second judgements. It doesnt matter if you are the top 5 smartest people in the world, people do not have the resources to 'vet' everyone. We look at patterns and realize that people with Face tattoos are less likely to be excellent.
This is textbook idealism. That is the way the world Ought to be. That isnt how the world Is. We are shaped by experiences.
There is something a bit reinforcing on this topic. The people deliberately violating social norms claim they 'don't care'. I imagine the smartest people are aware this stuff does matter, so they don't violate social norms.
The first removal 5 years ago would leave me bleeding and require bandage changes for a week.
The new tattoo removal lasers leave you feeling like a sun burn for two days. No blood, no bandages.
It will become way more common.
> Why do the media keep running stories saying suits are back? Because PR firms tell them to. One of the most surprising things I discovered during my brief business career was the existence of the PR industry, lurking like a huge, quiet submarine beneath the news. Of the stories you read in traditional media that aren't about politics, crimes, or disasters, more than half probably come from PR firms.
https://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html (April 02005)
You just pick something really cool when you're 20, and then you resist turning into a boring person who hates what you used to like when you're 40
It's just having the maturity to realize that you don't have to stop having fun just because you're getting older
It's also important to have the maturity to realize that there is a time and place for embracing your inner child
I have a tattoo of a sword buried in molten rock on my bicep. It was kind of inspired by the bonfire from Dark Souls. I don't tend to go around showing it off at work events or whatever.
I absolutely do not regret it even though it is admittedly kind of a childish tattoo. I think it's cool. I show it off to people that I think will also think it's cool
If everyone doesn't have the right to due process, no one does.
The more interesting question is how the percentages changed — although that very likely just tells you something about the quality and availability of tattoo removal services.
Now that's your fashion decision for the rest of your life because you thought this is such a cool look, you'll wear it until you die.
That's tattoos.
That said, I'm old enough that most of those could be my kids, so I realize I'm an old fart at this point.
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Then I looked into it, and it seems to be pretty hit or miss. Some people have great outcomes, some people end up with something that looks even worse than what they started with. It can take years for the removal process, and you won't know if you're going to end up with a good or bad result until the end.
That doesn't even touch on the price.
So, for me, I'm just going to cover mine up, and accept that I've only got a few more decades with them anyway.
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