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Chinese dissident who led pro-democracy group in NYC pleads guilty to spying

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/chinese-dissident-led-democracy-group-new-york-pleads-guilty...
1•737min•36s ago•0 comments

Ask HN: Experienced the counter-intuitive cost reduction by increasing CPU?

1•rudderdev•1m ago•0 comments

Running a 80×25 DOS-Style Console Is Possible After All

https://changelog.complete.org/archives/10907-running-an-accurate-80x25-dos-style-console-on-mode...
1•runstop•3m ago•0 comments

Custom Music on Demand by a Human (SnoZ)

https://snozmusic.com/custom-music-on-demand-by-a-human/
2•BrunoBernardino•5m ago•1 comments

Free and open source software is incompatible with (security) guarantees

https://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/tech/OpenSourceMeansNoGuarantees
2•speckx•5m ago•0 comments

Flipper Zero Geiger Counter

https://kasiin.top/blog/2025-08-04-flipper_zero_geiger_counter_module/
2•wgx•6m ago•0 comments

JLR's UK factory stoppage from cyber attack stretches to three weeks

https://www.reuters.com/en/jlrs-uk-factory-stoppage-cyber-attack-stretches-three-weeks-2025-09-16/
2•mooreds•6m ago•0 comments

Point-of-Care Ultrasonography for Hospitalist Management of Dyspnea

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2838514
2•PaulHoule•7m ago•0 comments

Reimagining MCP via gRPC

https://medium.com/@bharatgeleda/reimagining-mcp-via-grpc-a19bf8c2907e
2•mooreds•7m ago•0 comments

Image Converter for Mac

https://picmal.app/
2•albertogalca•9m ago•0 comments

SAP project costs cited in jeweler's bankruptcy filing (2009)

https://www.computerworld.com/article/1477035/sap-project-costs-cited-in-jeweler-s-bankruptcy-fil...
1•mooreds•9m ago•0 comments

Veteran Player's Tool: Web Voice Coach for Dota2 – Never Miss Pulls/Runes Again

1•sunshiney0992•10m ago•0 comments

Three Decades in Kernelland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS2LGMRzE1I
1•todsacerdoti•12m ago•0 comments

The push for more protein (a euphemism for meat): good, bad, indifferent?

https://www.foodpolitics.com/2025/09/27862/
1•speckx•13m ago•0 comments

The death rays that guard life

https://worksinprogress.co/issue/the-death-rays-that-guard-life/
1•ortegaygasset•13m ago•0 comments

Right-Wing Outlets Attacked Wikipedia After Charlie Kirk's Shooting

https://slate.com/technology/2025/09/charlie-kirk-shooting-wikipedia-right-wing-media-attacks.html
1•jgwil2•13m ago•0 comments

1Password Partners with Perplexity to Secure the Future of AI Browsing

http://1password.com/press/2025/sep/perplexity-partnership
1•elashri•14m ago•0 comments

New Mars research reveals multiple episodes of habitability in Jezero Crater

https://phys.org/news/2025-09-mars-reveals-multiple-episodes-habitability.html
1•pseudolus•15m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: What do you think about pgtyped.dev?

1•jerawaj740•15m ago•0 comments

Abusive Appliance Interfaces

http://toastytech.com/guis/abuse.html
1•andsoitis•18m ago•0 comments

Atlassian acquires DX, a developer productivity platform for $1B

https://techcrunch.com/2025/09/18/atlassian-acquires-dx-a-developer-productivity-platform-for-1b/
1•pastelsky•19m ago•0 comments

Tails 7.0

https://tails.net/news/version_7.0/
1•haakon•19m ago•0 comments

What Android 16 KB Page Size Requirement Means for .NET Developers

https://platform.uno/blog/what-android-16-kb-page-size-requirement-means-for-net-developers/
1•sasakrsmanovic2•19m ago•0 comments

The Rise and Fall of Grunge Typography

https://medium.com/the-awl/the-rise-and-fall-of-grunge-typography-854d8aa88555
2•ingve•20m ago•0 comments

Gemini AI solves coding problem that stumped 139 human teams at ICPC World Final

https://arstechnica.com/google/2025/09/google-gemini-earns-gold-medal-in-icpc-world-finals-coding...
1•sleepyguy•20m ago•0 comments

Data Science Weekly – Issue 617

https://datascienceweekly.substack.com/p/data-science-weekly-issue-617
1•sebg•22m ago•0 comments

The Online Marketplaces That Enable 'Pig Butchering' Scams

https://www.wsj.com/finance/currencies/cambodia-huione-pig-butchering-scam-f9d16ef9
2•randycupertino•24m ago•1 comments

AI #134: If Anyone Reads It

https://thezvi.substack.com/p/ai-134-if-anyone-reads-it
1•jsnider3•24m ago•0 comments

DeepSeek-R1 incentivizes reasoning in LLMs through reinforcement learning

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-09422-z
3•rntn•24m ago•0 comments

Wallet Voting

https://pluralistic.net/2025/09/13/consumption-choices/
2•rpgbr•25m ago•0 comments
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Algebraic Effects: Another mistake carried through to perfection?

https://kjosib.github.io/Counterpoint/effects.html
29•todsacerdoti•4mo ago

Comments

smitty1e•4mo ago
> sweet careers are made of this, so who am I to disagree? Compile the world; Java Python C. Everybody’s looking for some bug. Some of them want to maintain you. Some of them want to be maintained.

For those missing the reference:

https://youtu.be/qeMFqkcPYcg?si=at-YtggekbPdv7sN

voxl•4mo ago
The desire of the HN community to pull a random person's uninformed opinion about a topic that they, justifiably, wrote for their own interests and amusement and then pontificate about how either stupid or amazing it is will never ceise to confuse me.

Effects on their own are a very active area of research and I would laugh behind a PL researchers back if they claimed it was a solved issue. Between Monads, call-by-push-value, and algebraic effects there is really no clear "how do people actually use this" answer.

But that's not the job of a PL researcher anyway, or a random software engineer for that matter. Sorry to say, the software engineer knows next to nothing about "the right way" to design language features that people want to use or enjoy using. If anything this should be an HCI person with a penchant for PL or vice versa.

eli_gottlieb•4mo ago
>Effects on their own are a very active area of research and I would laugh behind a PL researchers back if they claimed it was a solved issue. Between Monads, call-by-push-value, and algebraic effects there is really no clear "how do people actually use this" answer.

I can actually say that I used algebraic effects in my thesis for the section on semantics of a basic probabilistic programming language. It avoided talking about monads for my committee member who cared and honestly made for an easier implementation.

rednafi•4mo ago
> Sorry to say, the software engineer knows next to nothing about "the right way" to design language features that people want to use or enjoy using.

Sorry to say that many PL researchers live in their ivory tower and know next to nothing about things that people care about. One could say that it's not their job, their job is to write papers and get tenure. The number of FP enthusiasts versus the number of large, useful systems written in those languages is all the proof you need.

My statement is a vast generalization and is equally incorrect as the original one.

voxl•4mo ago
Anyone who uses words like "ivory tower" I know suffers more from jealousy and anti-intellectualiam than anything else. There is a reason Rust is the most loved programming language of modern times and it's not because they ignored the "ivory tower"
chownie•4mo ago
I had to stop and re-read this comment chain because I was sure this was satire
agentultra•4mo ago
There’s a certain amount of hubris to say, “I don’t know anything about this and you’re making a mistake.” It’s off putting and kills the whole rant.

I’ve heard opinions from smart people with lots of experience who say algebraic effects are not worth the squeeze. I’ve also heard some say that we should all be pushing the boundaries: they are the future.

So the matter doesn’t seem to be decided. Now isn’t the time for maxims.

gitroom•4mo ago
Every time I read stuff like this it just makes me laugh, I honestly never know who to listen to in these debates.
rednafi•4mo ago
Research doesn't work like that. I like the idea of separating contract and implementation in algebraic effects. It might pave the way to bring back some sanity to imperative languages and help us write better code, since it's pretty clear that the "real world" doesn't care much about pure functional languages no matter what they bring to the table. Or algebraic effects could be like monads, many like to talk about them while people building real stuff have no clue about it, nor do they care. But we'll never know unless we explore.
lambdas•4mo ago
To which implementation is the author referring, I wonder?

I can’t say I recognise any of these issues from freer, polysemy, nor bluefin.

chriswarbo•4mo ago
The author says the approach they advocate (just using function parameters) is similar to "dependency injection". It looks like in FP/objects-are-a-poor-man's-closures terminology they're talking about Continuation Passing Style (CPS).