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Walrus – distributed message streaming in Rust

1•janicerk•22s ago•0 comments

The Last Programming Language, and the End of (A Bit of) History

https://davegriffith.substack.com/p/the-last-programming-language-and
1•dxs•6m ago•0 comments

When Life Gets Too Easy

https://woodypearson.substack.com/p/when-life-gets-too-easy
1•heywoods•8m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Save Trippy – A Thanksgiving Game

https://www.savetrippy.com/
2•nezaj•9m ago•0 comments

Build Your Ideas with Gemini

https://app.new
1•tzury•9m ago•0 comments

Show HN: The Participatory Interface Theory

1•bobsh•11m ago•0 comments

Tesla CEO Elon Musk admits tough realization about FSD

https://www.thestreet.com/automotive/tesla-ceo-elon-musk-admits-tough-realization-about-fsd
1•gochuks•13m ago•0 comments

Show HN: A1 – Local Sandbox and JIT Compiler for AI Agents

https://github.com/stanford-mast/a1
1•calebhwin•14m ago•1 comments

Enterprise security can be messy: Building a Security-Aware Culture

1•rezliant•14m ago•0 comments

Math Skill for Claude Code

https://github.com/ananddtyagi/claude-code-marketplace/tree/main/plugins/math
1•ananddtyagi•17m ago•1 comments

The Input Stack on Linux: An End-to-End Architecture Overview

https://venam.net/blog/unix/2025/11/27/input_devices_linux.html
4•venamresm__•18m ago•0 comments

Israel proposes Kiryat Tivon for Nvidia's multibillion-$ tech campus in North

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-proposes-kiryat-tivon-for-nvidias-multibillion-dollar-tech-c...
3•thenaturalist•19m ago•1 comments

Asahi Investigation Results and Future Measures on Cyberattack Data Exposure

https://www.asahigroup-holdings.com/en/newsroom/detail/20251127-0204.html
1•ChrisArchitect•24m ago•0 comments

SSE sucks for transporting LLM tokens

https://zknill.io/posts/sse-sucks-for-transporting-llm-tokens/
2•zknill•24m ago•0 comments

Seagate achieves 6.9TB storage capacity per platter

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/hdds/seagate-achieves-a-whopping-6-9tb-storage-capacit...
2•elorant•25m ago•0 comments

Shuffle – Game Mode as Experiment Engine

1•gok2•26m ago•0 comments

Grim Fandango film inspirations [pdf]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uIofz6_WeSYI3-6SEHT0vqFplb1wfLSW/view
1•Rant423•26m ago•0 comments

Tell HN: It should be okay to use AI for code and papers

1•nis0s•29m ago•2 comments

Show HN: Readit – Portable, dynamic context for AI Agents

https://readit.md/
1•zeerg•30m ago•1 comments

CSS has become too powerful. Here's the solution

https://youtu.be/VsLGfo-e-wc
2•whitep4nth3r•30m ago•1 comments

Pakistan says rooftop solar output to exceed grid demand in some hubs next year

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2•toomuchtodo•31m ago•1 comments

NLnet announces funding for 45 more open-source digital infrastructure projects

https://nlnet.nl/news/2025/20251127-45-NGI0-CommonsFund.html
2•pimterry•31m ago•0 comments

Show HN: In The Office Tracker – Track your RTO requirements automatically

https://intheofficetracker.com
2•jryan49•31m ago•0 comments

Greggit – Google but it's only the Reddit results

https://greggit.com
2•goncharom•32m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: What Are You Thankful For?

4•nerdsniper•33m ago•1 comments

10 years of writing a blog nobody reads

https://flowtwo.io/post/on-10-years-of-writing-a-blog-nobody-reads
1•thejoeflow•34m ago•0 comments

The VanDersarl Blériot: a 1911 airplane homebuilt by teenage brothers

https://www.historynet.com/vandersarl-bleriot/
2•ForHackernews•35m ago•0 comments

Thank You Hacker News – To Everyone – It Is the Most Fun Place on the Internet

1•Brajeshwar•35m ago•1 comments

Google Agent Garden

https://console.cloud.google.com/vertex-ai/agents/agent-garden
1•Brajeshwar•35m ago•0 comments

Sharing Your Work Is Like Lifting with Your Legs

https://devonzuegel.com/writing-for-an-audience-is-like-lifting-with-your-legs
1•todsacerdoti•36m ago•0 comments
Open in hackernews

Algebraic Effects: Another mistake carried through to perfection?

https://kjosib.github.io/Counterpoint/effects.html
29•todsacerdoti•6mo ago

Comments

smitty1e•6mo ago
> sweet careers are made of this, so who am I to disagree? Compile the world; Java Python C. Everybody’s looking for some bug. Some of them want to maintain you. Some of them want to be maintained.

For those missing the reference:

https://youtu.be/qeMFqkcPYcg?si=at-YtggekbPdv7sN

voxl•6mo ago
The desire of the HN community to pull a random person's uninformed opinion about a topic that they, justifiably, wrote for their own interests and amusement and then pontificate about how either stupid or amazing it is will never ceise to confuse me.

Effects on their own are a very active area of research and I would laugh behind a PL researchers back if they claimed it was a solved issue. Between Monads, call-by-push-value, and algebraic effects there is really no clear "how do people actually use this" answer.

But that's not the job of a PL researcher anyway, or a random software engineer for that matter. Sorry to say, the software engineer knows next to nothing about "the right way" to design language features that people want to use or enjoy using. If anything this should be an HCI person with a penchant for PL or vice versa.

eli_gottlieb•6mo ago
>Effects on their own are a very active area of research and I would laugh behind a PL researchers back if they claimed it was a solved issue. Between Monads, call-by-push-value, and algebraic effects there is really no clear "how do people actually use this" answer.

I can actually say that I used algebraic effects in my thesis for the section on semantics of a basic probabilistic programming language. It avoided talking about monads for my committee member who cared and honestly made for an easier implementation.

rednafi•6mo ago
> Sorry to say, the software engineer knows next to nothing about "the right way" to design language features that people want to use or enjoy using.

Sorry to say that many PL researchers live in their ivory tower and know next to nothing about things that people care about. One could say that it's not their job, their job is to write papers and get tenure. The number of FP enthusiasts versus the number of large, useful systems written in those languages is all the proof you need.

My statement is a vast generalization and is equally incorrect as the original one.

voxl•6mo ago
Anyone who uses words like "ivory tower" I know suffers more from jealousy and anti-intellectualiam than anything else. There is a reason Rust is the most loved programming language of modern times and it's not because they ignored the "ivory tower"
chownie•6mo ago
I had to stop and re-read this comment chain because I was sure this was satire
agentultra•6mo ago
There’s a certain amount of hubris to say, “I don’t know anything about this and you’re making a mistake.” It’s off putting and kills the whole rant.

I’ve heard opinions from smart people with lots of experience who say algebraic effects are not worth the squeeze. I’ve also heard some say that we should all be pushing the boundaries: they are the future.

So the matter doesn’t seem to be decided. Now isn’t the time for maxims.

gitroom•6mo ago
Every time I read stuff like this it just makes me laugh, I honestly never know who to listen to in these debates.
rednafi•6mo ago
Research doesn't work like that. I like the idea of separating contract and implementation in algebraic effects. It might pave the way to bring back some sanity to imperative languages and help us write better code, since it's pretty clear that the "real world" doesn't care much about pure functional languages no matter what they bring to the table. Or algebraic effects could be like monads, many like to talk about them while people building real stuff have no clue about it, nor do they care. But we'll never know unless we explore.
lambdas•6mo ago
To which implementation is the author referring, I wonder?

I can’t say I recognise any of these issues from freer, polysemy, nor bluefin.

chriswarbo•6mo ago
The author says the approach they advocate (just using function parameters) is similar to "dependency injection". It looks like in FP/objects-are-a-poor-man's-closures terminology they're talking about Continuation Passing Style (CPS).