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The Surveillance Accountability Act

https://www.surveillanceaccountability.com
1•Cider9986•1m ago•0 comments

French police look at claim of sensor tampering to win weather bets

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/23/hairdryer-or-lighter-french-police-look-at-claim-of...
1•geox•2m ago•0 comments

Control Workspace Intelligence for generative AI features [AI defaults on]

https://knowledge.workspace.google.com/admin/gemini/control-workspace-intelligence
1•lancewiggs•5m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: What are the best developer tools built around Markdown?

1•dhruv3006•6m ago•0 comments

Mahjong: A Visual Guide

https://themahjong.guide/
1•iamwil•14m ago•0 comments

DeepSeek V4 is out. the best open-source on coding. here's the breakdown

2•Alisaqqt•15m ago•0 comments

Ada's Technical Books in Seattle will close

https://www.seattletimes.com/entertainment/books/capitol-hill-bookstore-adas-will-close-fuel-coff...
1•so-cal-schemer•17m ago•1 comments

Free API for real-time Australian emergency data (27 feeds, all 8 states)

https://emergencyapi.com
1•JackDemps•18m ago•0 comments

The Toroidal Momentum Engine: A Workable Version of Infinity

https://zenodo.org/records/19572243
2•SCAQTony•18m ago•0 comments

Mini ML Blog

https://mni-ml.github.io/
1•SoulMan•20m ago•0 comments

Nvidia's B200 costs around $6,400 to produce

https://epoch.ai/data-insights/b200-cost-breakdown
1•KnuthIsGod•20m ago•0 comments

Privacy Setup for Android 16 with GrapheneOS

https://xn--gckvb8fzb.com/privacy-setup-for-android-16-with-grapheneos/
2•HotGarbage•21m ago•0 comments

Equity for Europeans

https://lucumr.pocoo.org/2026/4/23/equity-for-europeans/
2•Tomte•22m ago•0 comments

If AI existed in 2011 would we still have the modern web

https://webmatrices.com/post/if-ai-existed-in-2011-would-we-still-have-the-modern-web
1•bishwasbh•27m ago•0 comments

Is possible a language easy as py, fast as C, more secure than Rust?

1•jerryzhang66•28m ago•0 comments

Harnesses Explained: The Inner and Outer Workings of the Coding Agent Harness

https://codagent.beehiiv.com/p/harnesses-explained
3•paulcaplan•30m ago•1 comments

Turn messy chats into structured TODOs and notes automatically

https://noteithub.com
1•pardisapporify•33m ago•0 comments

DeepSeek V4 Flash

https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V4-Flash
6•S0y•35m ago•0 comments

DeepSeek 4 Launched

https://deepseek4.hk/
7•mariopt•37m ago•4 comments

In Defense of Blub Studies

https://www.benkuhn.net/blub/
2•jonnonz•38m ago•0 comments

Need Help Please

1•activist_mel•40m ago•0 comments

A quick look at Mythos run on Firefox: too much hype?

https://xark.es/b/mythos-firefox-150
2•leonidasv•43m ago•0 comments

Hello from Berkeley

https://fluoverse.com
2•Panos_moschos•44m ago•1 comments

Anthropic Engineering Postmortem: Claude's 60-Minute Memory Bug

https://www.aiuniverse.news/claudes-memory-lapse-a-bug-erased-its-reasoning-after-an-hour/
1•aiuniversenews•46m ago•0 comments

DeepSeek-V4

https://huggingface.co/collections/deepseek-ai/deepseek-v4
5•meetpateltech•48m ago•0 comments

DeepSeek-V4: Towards Highly Efficient Million-Token Context Intelligence

https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V4-Pro
62•cmrdporcupine•48m ago•7 comments

Dear friend, you have built a Kubernetes (2024)

https://www.macchaffee.com/blog/2024/you-have-built-a-kubernetes/
2•Wingy•48m ago•0 comments

The Centrality Fallacy and ACM

https://cacm.acm.org/opinion/the-centrality-fallacy-and-acm/
2•pykq•49m ago•0 comments

DeepSeek-V4 Preview Version is launched

2•lanbin•49m ago•0 comments

OpenInterpretability

https://openinterp.org/
2•caiovicentino•53m ago•0 comments
Open in hackernews

LSP client in Clojure in 200 lines of code

https://vlaaad.github.io/lsp-client-in-200-lines-of-code
164•vlaaad•11mo ago

Comments

whalesalad•11mo ago
This is the most Java-y Clojure I’ve probably ever read. Just use Java? It’s so verbose and complex for what it is doing. Breaking this down into smaller functions and using core.async would make it even more succinct.

Just want to emphasize this because clojure is indeed a small, lesser known language that has a hard enough time attracting users. This is not what anyone would consider an idiomatic example of using clojure.

roenxi•11mo ago
Would it be 200 lines of Java? It'd be 200 lines of just for the boilerplate. It isn't really a selling point of Clojure because it is subjective, but low-syntax high-terseness look of the code is in itself a reward for using the language.

And there isn't anything especially wrong with sticking to Java primitives if someone is comfortable with them. They work fine for Java programmers. The dude doesn't need to learn a new async library to write an LSP client if he doesn't feel like it. Code works, its easy to read, easy to understand and modify.

koito17•11mo ago
Line count is not very useful to compare without the context of standard library size, third-party dependencies, etc. The code in TFA depends[1] on a JSON library[2] that is about a thousand lines of code (excluding tests) wrapping a Java library for JSON decoding.

Then there's other things to consider, like the fact that this LSP client, while succinct, pays not only the cost of loading Jackson, but also the cost of loading clojure.core, which is quite non-trivial[3]. Startup time for LSP servers and clients definitely matters to some, considering that e.g. even clojure-lsp recommends running native executables over JAR files[4]. Can't find documentation proving it's for quick startup, but it's a plausible rationale for their recommendation of a binary over a JAR.

Note: I have used Clojure professionally and in hobby projects. I think it's nice that one can interactively develop a minimal LSP client and the resulting amount of work is roughly 200 lines of code. I say "minimal" because it's unclear how this client deals with offsets reported by LSP servers, which are all given as offsets in a UTF-16 encoded string. In any case, I still think advertising "LSP client in 200 lines of code" hides valuable information regarding functionality, implementation, "actual" code size, and trade-offs made in the choice of technology stack.

[1] https://github.com/vlaaad/lsp-clj-client/blob/a567e66/deps.e...

[2] https://github.com/metosin/jsonista/blob/c8f2b62/project.clj...

[3] https://clojure-goes-fast.com/blog/clojures-slow-start/#cloj...

[4] https://clojure-lsp.io/installation/#embedded-jar-legacy-exe...

pron•11mo ago
Between records and compact classes [1] Java's boilerplate isn't what it once was.

[1]: https://openjdk.org/jeps/512

newlisp•11mo ago
It's idiomatic "low-level" Clojure, though. Not everything is a happy place where you're just manipulating maps and vectors like in most examples.
0x1ceb00da•11mo ago
> lesser known language that has a hard enough time attracting users

For very good reasons.

dig1•11mo ago
I don't see why this wouldn't be considered idiomatic clojure code; it makes proper use of all the facilities provided by the language and the main intention of this code is to follow the article. Additionally, the clojure core team often encourages not to shy away from using java code directly, as this approach strikes a good balance between performance and language expressivity.

> It’s so verbose and complex for what it is doing. ... and using core.async

I think this code is actually quite straightforward and easy for a clojure developer to understand. In fact, using core.async in this case would be overkill and could complicate things further.

daveliepmann•11mo ago
This looks like the other completely normal, idiomatic Clojure programs I've seen which manipulate a StringBuilder. And as Clojurians go I'm far to the succinctness/concision-preferring end of the spectrum.

I'm curious to see your core.async-based version :)

askonomm•11mo ago
Holy crap is this unreadable or what (notably the lsp-base fn). There's a reason why in most Clojure companies I've worked at we try to make as small functions as possible, because otherwise it very very quickly becomes an unreadable mess, and you write code after all for humans to read, because if you didn't, you might as well just write binary. But, I'm not surprised many people don't want to get into Clojure or Lisps in general, because it takes a boatload of conventions and active discipline to make it a good experience.
slifin•11mo ago
To me something unreadable is code that I cannot statically make any assertions about the runtime behaviour of the code

This function you're complaining about looks like 2 virtual threads doing program input reading and output writing for the LSP client given some ArrayBlockingQueues in about 25-30 lines

If I wanted the complete story I could use Clojure's inbuilt test runner to slip some ArrayBlockingQueues in there and run it under record with Flowstorm

Then leisurely seek through the entire state of the program, to get the play-by-play of how this works

There are so many good design choices in this language and a good 30% of colleagues I run into are not even doing the basics of like running a REPL, I think some people just need to clock in with a decade of C# or PHP or TS or JS or Python or whatever to get a taste of a language with next to no inbuilt immutability, statements instead of expressions, no reload-ability in the language semantics and just crapshot debuggers that run in lockstep with the program execution