US Copyright Office Has Thoughts on AI. Big Tech May Not Like It

https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-training-copyright-laws-big-tech-fair-use-openai-meta-2025-5

43•walterbell•9mo ago

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insane_dreamer•9mo ago

And ... the head of the Copyright Office just got fired as a result of the report. Trump probably got a call from Elon about it.

https://www.theverge.com/news/664768/trump-fires-us-copyrigh...

NewJazz•9mo ago

Lol that'll hold up in court.

"Your honor it is not fair use, we fired the guy who said it was"

Nasrudith•9mo ago

It is an advisory role. But one which is supposed to be controlled by the legislative branch. But it turns out there are fewer balls in the federal government than the inhabitants of your average pet shelter post-neutering.

NewJazz•9mo ago

I mean the judiciary will settle it in the end IMO. Might be a bit of a journey.

pjc50•9mo ago

> “unprecedented power grab with no legal basis,”

Ah, must be Monday in the US.

zarzavat•9mo ago

Courts (usually) understand that their power is limited by reality. If they decide that AI training is not fair use, then it will not prevent AI training, because Europe and China will continue. All it will do is cripple the US for a time before congress can pass legislation to undo it.

pjc50•9mo ago

Difficulty of enforcement never worked as an argument in the War On Drugs. Or even in regular copyright enforcement, really. I don't see why AI megacorps should get a free pass to steal all the IP in the world simply because it's profitable.

aspenmayer•9mo ago

The right people benefit from AI training being fair use, and the wrong people benefit from the war on drugs and from copyright infringement. There's no nuance or ideological reasons beyond that really. Need there be, even if we would choose differently?

walterbell•9mo ago

If it's now legal for AI companies to train LLMs on orphan works, can humans publish those works for other humans to read?

https://www.copyright.gov/orphan/

If red tape is being untangled, let's address longstanding issues.

insane_dreamer•9mo ago

That could be said of all IP law.

mcv•9mo ago

It is true of all IP law, which is why there are international agreements on IP law.

But Europe already seems to be a lot more restrictive than the US on this front, so it's the US making it a race to the bottom there. China is probably a different matter.

ChrisArchitect•9mo ago

Earlier on the report pdf: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43955025

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