No sources cited in the text, a quote from an "activist". It's not much to go on.
On a different note, the increased ability of men to participate in family life and household chores sounds amazing. It might sound weird to younger professionals without kids, but as soon as you have a child, having one extra day to deal with everything household related makes a huge difference.
referring to this: https://autonomy.work/portfolio/on-firmer-ground-icelands-on...
If a greater number of people could access 36h work weeks at 9h a day, and more people got access to 4 day work weeks, with a long weekend every weekend, it might not be a bad thing.
> Unlike some countries, such as Belgium, where the four-day week means that hours not worked are compensated for by longer working days
40 hours/5 days = 8 hours per day
36 hours/4 days = 9 hours per day
The Icelandic workday increased from 8 to 9 hours, a 12½% increase. That sure looks like hours not worked being compensated for by longer working days.
When I started, I was on five 8-hour days with the possibility of working half days on Saturday if things were hectic. It made me extremely prone to burnout because I never got enough time to reset.
Depending on the demands of one's job, the four 9/10-hour days may work or may not. For me, working 8 hours then commuting home meant I was going to spend what remained of my weekday evenings decompressing, getting nothing done at home or with my hobbies because I was drained from the day. Switching to 9, then 10's made zero difference on those wasted days, but granted me 1.5 extra days (free day + no more possible half-day Saturdays) where I typically can do whatever I want. I am lucky enough to be able to drop that free day on Friday or Monday, so I get tons of three day weekends to spend with my wife and various hobbies.
If you focus on the hours per day, it stops making as much sense for some. I find folly in that. I look at days per week. If I am working 5 days per week, because of burnout, those five days are no longer mine. Not much else is getting done. If I am only working 4 days, still moving the same output with the same paycheck, but I'm getting more of my time per week back, which allows me to reset and enjoy the things I enjoy.
Again, this won't work for everyone. Each of us has to be honest about what we'd really do with an extra hour or two in the day, versus an extra day in the week, then decide what works best for us.
Not only are there the usual distractions of chatting with friends and playing games, there's also the fact that taking care of personal life has to happen sometime during the 9-5.
I'm not sure where they are getting their numbers from.
Iceland reduced the weekly working hours from 40 to 36. That’s it, it’s not some grand 4 work days a week experiment gone right as they are trying to paint it.
Our biggest problem was that this was difficult to roll out to all people working for the company. E.g. you can't really cut the hours for cleaners coming in for a few hours per week because their hours are mostly defined by their workload and a 37.5% reduction across the board also means someone who previously did 20 hours would now do 12.5 hours, which translates to a much greater loss of productivity if spread out across more than two days. The founders also pretty much kept working full time as before.
The reduced number of working hours also really put the spotlight on people who were already struggling with productivity before, which one might argue is a good thing. Also for legal reasons the contracts remained unaffected as this was an open-ended experiment, not a legally binding benefit. The employees were also interviewed before and during the process and most were initially opposed to the idea because they feared they wouldn't be able to handle their workloads in less time.
It's worth mentioning that just like WFH policies, this is something that simply doesn't work for everyone. If you have a factory with a fixed output over time and productivity of an employee is tied to time at the machine, productivity loss will translate 1-to-1 from reduced working hours. Likewise in retail working hours are dictated by opening hours. You can still reduce working hours by introducing/adding shifts of course but there is no economic incentive for companies to keep paying employees the same for fewer hours in these jobs unless coerced to do so through collective bargaining. Remember that while many credit Henry Ford with popularizing the 40 hour work week and he did provide many rationalizations for it at his own company, the 40 hour work week only became law (along with many other improvements of working conditions) after massive protests from unionists and anarchists, including the Haymarket massacre[0]. It wasn't simply handed to workers, and certainly not voluntarily.
[0]: In case you're unfamiliar with the term, the Haymarket massacre or "Haymarket affair" refers to an incident where police shot and killed an unknown number of unarmed protestors and striking workers following an explosion that killed seven police officers and at least four workers. Eight people were charged and sentenced (seven being sentenced to death) for the bombing, though it's not clear if any of them were actually involved in the bombing itself or its planning. The police officers who had shot and killed protestors never suffered any consequences.
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Edit: this seems to be the study that various articles are based on https://autonomy.work/portfolio/on-firmer-ground-icelands-on...
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I'm very curious to hear how a summary of a survey done by a university for a government contract, with most of the text being figures, is not highly factual.
The mental gymnastics will be incredible. Surely such entertainment is worth something.
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