> Wayland's security model restricts programmatic input simulation, which is essential for assistive technologies
> Unlike X11, there's no standardized way to inject mouse events system-wide
Look, maybe rootless screen recording is "essential for assistive technologies" too, that doesn't mean you're going to (or even should) get it.
josephcsible•8mo ago
The Wayland people seem to want it both ways. If Wayland is intended to replace X11, then we absolutely should have a way to do everything we can already do with X11. And if Wayland isn't intended to replace X11, then distros should keep it around as a first-class citizen.
mouse_•8mo ago
> that doesn't mean you're going to get it.
Totally wrong; as a computer user, I can very confidently say that computer users are going to get what they want. They may get what they want by switching to amateur, insecure software forks, such as Hyprland, or by switching to software that allows them to use their computer as they please, such as Microsoft Windows.
I'm so sick of this modern "We know best how you should use your computer" tag. Does absolutely nobody any good. The only reasonable computer security policy is "assume breach".
esbranson•8mo ago
> In fact, I specifically acknowledged the draft Wayland accessibility protocol and Newton project in my previous comments, and I mentioned libei as a promising development. But acknowledging that work is happening doesn't change the fact that these features aren't ready yet, while Wayland is being pushed as the default.
We ain't sticking to X11 because of dwell clickers.
bigyabai•8mo ago
> Unlike X11, there's no standardized way to inject mouse events system-wide
Look, maybe rootless screen recording is "essential for assistive technologies" too, that doesn't mean you're going to (or even should) get it.
josephcsible•8mo ago
mouse_•8mo ago
Totally wrong; as a computer user, I can very confidently say that computer users are going to get what they want. They may get what they want by switching to amateur, insecure software forks, such as Hyprland, or by switching to software that allows them to use their computer as they please, such as Microsoft Windows.
I'm so sick of this modern "We know best how you should use your computer" tag. Does absolutely nobody any good. The only reasonable computer security policy is "assume breach".