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New study finds link between green spaces and police violence

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2025-04-link-green-spaces-police-violence.html
5•PaulHoule•2h ago

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noqc•1h ago
I'm not sure that I believe this study.
riedel•1h ago
I guess there are tons of other confounders possible and quite difficult to control for (admittedly did not read the original study). I guess if you would take a green space and pour concrete on it just for a study to measure it against a controll, it would for sure also trigger police violence as the protesters will most likely also be quite unhappy.
hbartab•1h ago
> We believe that higher levels of greenness can reduce violence through four major mechanisms: reduced crime, improved short-term and long-term mental health, sending a signal that a place is well-cared for and increasing the use of outdoor spaces by nearby neighbors.

While I did not read the paywalled paper, it seems like a latent variable might also explain it: affluence and greenery might be positively correlated and police are less trigger-happy in rich neighbourhoods.

rrobukef•1h ago
Per abstract, the effect is stronger in poor regions (precisely "across five levels of social deprivation"). They did control for affluence.
wahern•16m ago
I would expect police shootings to be greater in areas where poor neighborhoods are close to middle- and upper-class neighborhoods. In poor counties, especially with high-crime, I would think there would be less urgency generally. There's tremendous pressure on police departments to prevent spill-over. If an entire county is statistically poor, that suggests economic homogeneity.

The same phenomenon could be seen historically in racialized policing, including in otherwise economically homogenous rural areas, where the pressures to prevent black-on-white crime (but not white-on-black) meant blacks were treated much more severely, particularly in encounters outside a predominately black neighborhood. Within black neighborhoods, policing was less severe, and just less policing generally. That's still true today, though these days it's difficult to distinguish the marginal effect of racial dynamics from the broader socioeconomic dynamics.

ne0flex•1h ago
There are studies in Japan that showed train stations with blue lights installed have lower instances of attempted suicides than stations without blue lights [1]. There are also studies that indicate time in nature is associated with lower stress levels and blood pressure, regardless of income [2].

[1] https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190122-can-blue-lights-... [2] https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/02/240207120426.h...

wahern•37m ago
The negative correlation they found was with police shootings. Either the journalist, by eliding context for the quote, or the researcher was taking significant liberty by suggesting violence generally was reduced.

Let's take as a hypothesis that more green space means more distance and maneuverability, as well as more populated space[1]. Meaning in police encounters of the type in which shootings are more likely, there may be more distance between the officer and suspect (i.e. officer feels safer, i.e. "improved short-term... mental health"), or the suspect can more easily evade so that there's never a close encounter in the first place. Likewise, there may be more bystanders nearby, i.e. "increasing use... by nearby neighbors", which inhibits an officer's inclination to escalate or shoot.

[1] As opposed to roadside encounters in rural areas, which may have been excluded from the notion of green space, or perhaps explains the lesser negative correlation in rural areas where, despite the "green space", encounters would typically be more constrained than in, e.g., a park.

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