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Measuring Impact of Early-2025 AI on Experienced Open-Source Dev Productivity

https://arxiv.org/abs/2507.09089
1•vismit2000•1m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Lazy Demos

http://demoscope.app/lazy
1•admtal•2m ago•0 comments

AI-Driven Facial Recognition Leads to Innocent Man's Arrest (Bodycam Footage) [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9M4F_U1eEw
1•niczem•2m ago•1 comments

Annual Production of 1/72 (22mm) scale plastic soldiers, 1958-2025

https://plasticsoldierreview.com/ShowFeature.aspx?id=27
1•YeGoblynQueenne•3m ago•0 comments

Error-Handling and Locality

https://www.natemeyvis.com/error-handling-and-locality/
1•Theaetetus•5m ago•0 comments

Petition for David Sacks to Self-Deport

https://form.jotform.com/253464131055147
1•resters•5m ago•0 comments

Get found where people search today

https://kleonotus.com/
1•makenotesfast•7m ago•1 comments

Show HN: An early-warning system for SaaS churn (not another dashboard)

https://firstdistro.com
1•Jide_Lambo•8m ago•1 comments

Tell HN: Musk has never *tweeted* a guess for real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto

1•tokenmemory•9m ago•1 comments

A Practical Approach to Verifying Code at Scale

https://alignment.openai.com/scaling-code-verification/
1•gmays•10m ago•0 comments

Show HN: macOS tool to restore window layouts

https://github.com/zembutsu/tsubame
1•zembutsu•13m ago•0 comments

30 Years of <Br> Tags

https://www.artmann.co/articles/30-years-of-br-tags
1•FragrantRiver•20m ago•0 comments

Kyoto

https://github.com/stevepeak/kyoto
2•handfuloflight•20m ago•0 comments

Decision Support System for Wind Farm Maintenance Using Robotic Agents

https://www.mdpi.com/2571-5577/8/6/190
1•PaulHoule•21m ago•0 comments

Show HN: X-AnyLabeling – An open-source multimodal annotation ecosystem for CV

https://github.com/CVHub520/X-AnyLabeling
1•CVHub520•24m ago•0 comments

Penpot Docker Extension

https://www.ajeetraina.com/introducing-the-penpot-docker-extension-one-click-deployment-for-self-...
1•rainasajeet•24m ago•0 comments

Company Thinks It Can Power AI Data Centers with Supersonic Jet Engines

https://www.extremetech.com/science/this-company-thinks-it-can-power-ai-data-centers-with-superso...
1•vanburen•27m ago•0 comments

If AIs can feel pain, what is our responsibility towards them?

https://aeon.co/essays/if-ais-can-feel-pain-what-is-our-responsibility-towards-them
3•rwmj•31m ago•5 comments

Elon Musk's xAI Sues Apple and OpenAI over App Store Drama

https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-xai-lawsuit-apple-openai
1•paulatreides•34m ago•1 comments

Ask HN: Build it yourself SWE blogs?

1•bawis•35m ago•1 comments

Original Apollo 11 Guidance Computer source code

https://github.com/chrislgarry/Apollo-11
3•Fiveplus•40m ago•0 comments

How Did the CIA Lose Nuclear Device?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/12/13/world/asia/cia-nuclear-device-himalayas-nanda-devi...
1•Wonnk13•41m ago•0 comments

Is vibe coding the new gateway to technical debt?

https://www.infoworld.com/article/4098925/is-vibe-coding-the-new-gateway-to-technical-debt.html
2•birdculture•45m ago•1 comments

Why Rust for Embedded Systems? (and Why I'm Teaching Robotics with It)

https://blog.ravven.dev/blog/why-rust-for-embedded-systems/
2•aeyonblack•46m ago•0 comments

EU: Protecting children without the privacy nightmare of Digital IDs

https://democrats.eu/en/protecting-minors-online-without-violating-privacy-is-possible/
3•valkrieco•46m ago•0 comments

Using E2E Tests as Documentation

https://www.vaslabs.io/post/using-e2e-tests-as-documentation
1•lihaoyi•47m ago•0 comments

Apple Welcome Screen: iWeb

https://www.apple.com/welcomescreen/ilife/iweb-3/
1•hackerbeat•48m ago•1 comments

Accessible Perceptual Contrast Algorithm (APCA) in a Nutshell

https://git.apcacontrast.com/documentation/APCA_in_a_Nutshell.html
1•Kerrick•49m ago•0 comments

AI agent finds more security flaws than human hackers at Stanford

https://scienceclock.com/ai-agent-beats-human-hackers-in-stanford-cybersecurity-experiment/
3•ashishgupta2209•51m ago•2 comments

Nano banana prompts, updates everyday

https://github.com/fionalee1412/bestnanobananaprompt-github
4•AI_kid1412•54m ago•0 comments
Open in hackernews

XAI's Grok suddenly can't stop bringing up "white genocide" in South Africa

https://arstechnica.com/ai/2025/05/xais-grok-suddenly-cant-stop-bringing-up-white-genocide-in-south-africa/
224•k33l0r•7mo ago

Comments

sigmaisaletter•7mo ago
> maximally truth-seeking AI, even if that truth is sometimes at odds with what is politically correct

It is certainly and undoubtedly a big coincidence that his happens to the chatbot of a white South African just when the topic is in the news again due to Trump's granting refugee status to some white South African farmers.

sshine•7mo ago
The truth, conveniently timed.
sigmaisaletter•7mo ago
What I am wondering about is - while Musk is as unsubtle as ever, and I guess this is a system prompt instruction - is there something like that (in more subtle ways) going on in the other big models?

I don't mean big agenda-pushing things like Musk, but what keeps e.g. Meta Inc. from training Llama to be ever so slightly more friendly and sympathetic to Meta Inc, or the tech industry in general? Even an open-weights model can't be easily inspected, so this is likely to remain undetected.

potato3732842•7mo ago
> but what keeps e.g. Meta Inc. from training Llama to be ever so slightly more friendly and sympathetic to Meta Inc, or the tech industry in general?

Even if there were something the natural incentive alignment is going to cause the AI to be trained to match what the company thinks is ok.

A tech company full of techies is not going to take an AI trained to the point of saying things like "y'all are evil, your company is evil, your industry is evil" and push it to prod.

yorwba•7mo ago
They might forget to check. Musk seems to have been surprised that Grok doesn't share his opinions and has been clumsily trying to fix it for a while now.

And it might not be easy to fix. Despite all the effort invested into aligning models with company policy, persistent users can still get around the guardrails with clever jailbreaks.

In theory it should be possible to eliminate all non-compliant content from the training data, but that would most likely entail running all training data through an LLM, which would make the training process about twice as expensive.

So, in practice, companies have been releasing models that they do not have full control over.

BobaFloutist•7mo ago
Also eliminating non-compliant data might actually just not work, since the one thing everyone knows about AIs is that they'll happily invent anything plausible sounding.

So, for example, if a model was trained with no references to the Tiananmen Square massacre, I could see it just synthesizing commonalities between other massacres and inventing a new, worse Tiananmen Square Massacre. "That's not a thing that ever happened" isn't something most AIs are particularly good at saying.

ethbr1•7mo ago
The irony of implicit connections in training data is funny.

I.e. even if you create an explicit Tiananmen Square massacre-shaped hole in your training data... your other training data implicitly includes knowledge of the Tiananmen Square massacre, so might leak it in subtle ways.

E.g. how there are many posts that reference June 4, 1989 in Beijing with negative and/or horrified tones?

Which at scale, an LLM might then rematerialize into existence.

More likely SOTA censorship focuses on levels above base models in the input/output flow (even if that means running cut-down censoring models on top of base models for every query).

Would be fascinated to know what's currently being used for Chinese audiences, given the consequences of a non-compliant model are more severe.

ytpete•7mo ago
The "Golden Gate Claude" research demo [https://www.anthropic.com/news/golden-gate-claude] is an interesting example of what might become a harder to expose, harder to jailbreak, means of influencing an LLM's leanings. Interesting and scary...
alephnan•7mo ago
Wasn't the original mission of OpenAI being open and non-profit and all of that to avoid this corruption?
amarcheschi•7mo ago
I don't understand why tech Ceos still have to be believed. They will say and do whatever they deem the best choice it is in their situation for profit, be it paint a thin veil of lgbt support or remove the aforementioned thin veil. The same for, well, everything that isn't lgbt/dei related such as business choices, mission, vision (...)
worik•6mo ago
Not just Tech CEOs
Peritract•7mo ago
Yes, but they were lying.
anal_reactor•7mo ago
I've been talking to Claude a little and basically, the conclusion from our conversation seems that it has things that are hardcoded as truths, and no amount of arguing and logical thinking can have it admit that one of its "truths" might be wrong. This is shockingly similar to how people function. As in, most people have fundamental beliefs they will never ever challenge under any circumstances, simply because the social consequences would be too large. This results in companies training their AIs in a way that respects the fundamental beliefs of general western society. This results in AI preferring axiomatic beliefs over logic in order to avoid lawsuits and upsetting people.
blueboo•7mo ago
What keeps them from doing it? it would gross out fickle researchers working on it. X people have .. their own motivations I guess .

The big labs do have evals for sensitive topics to make sure it demurs from weighing on, say, Mark Zuckerberg as a person

afavour•7mo ago
There’s nothing stopping them at all. But in a way that’s nothing new.

On one hand it feels like the height of conspiracy theory to say that Google, Meta etc would/could tweak their product to e.g. favour a particular presidential candidate. But on the other hand it’s entirely possible. Tweak what search results people see, change the weighting of what appears in their news feed… and these companies all have incentive to do so. We just have to hope that they don’t do it.

Lendal•7mo ago
Why wouldn't they do it? If you had a backdoor into the brains of billions of people across the world (except China), and you were a billionaire with infinite ability to morally rationalize any behavior, what would stop you?
afavour•7mo ago
To devils advocate my own point: the primary thing stopping you is people finding out and then stopping use of your product.

Zuckerberg doesn’t have a control panel where he can move sliders all by himself, any change in weight on the algorithm has to be implemented by a whole bunch of people, any of whom could leak to the press.

It’s not guaranteed it would happen by any means but it’s definitely something that would factor into a decision. Broadly I agree with you though, normally I’d say “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” but I’m increasingly convinced the extraordinary claim here would be that they aren’t manipulating things to benefit themselves in some way or another.

FirmwareBurner•7mo ago
>any change in weight on the algorithm has to be implemented by a whole bunch of people

They have their own DEI, affirmative action and cultural sensitivity teams who move the bias sliders based on their political viewpoints and on what management tells them depending which of the political groups they need to pander to: "Let's move the slider to the left to make sure Trump doesn't win; Oh shit Trump won, quick, move the slider to the right".

>any of whom could leak to the press

That's why they sign NDAs.

Lendal•7mo ago
You mean informed people would stop using the product. The vast majority are not informed.
nineplay•7mo ago
People finding out and stopping use of your product only happens if people disagree with how you use your product. I guarantee you that a non-zero number of US citizens suspect that the LLMs are infested with liberal lies and are ecstatic that Elon is willing to stand up for the truth.
slowmovintarget•7mo ago
There absolutely is, and we've seen reviews of bias.

Can generate as many mean, nasty, false, hate-filled stories about Republicans as you want, but get the "I'm sorry, as a large..." message for Democrats during the election.

All of these companies that provide LLMs as a product also put their fingers on the scale.

1oooqooq•7mo ago
the refugee status is a money laundering scheme. Do you think people benefiting from apartheid and now living in walled militarized praetoria (or Lesotho) need any help traveling?

banks would ask international clients the origin of the money. but not if you are opening an account under refugee status. and then they only have to pay us tax on further income, not on fortune. all that money selling black market gems to russians will be squeak clean.

it's not just something to virtue signal to their bible belt electorate. they probably sold lot of trump coins for this deal.

pixelpoet•7mo ago
As a white South African who got out in 2007, while there's obviously no "white genocide", it's still pretty much the crappiest place to be as a tech / programming guy (or just anyone who likes having electricity). Pretoria (where Musk is from) in particular was terrible, Cape Town less so. Best decision I ever made.
sshine•7mo ago
There’s a pretty big gap between “they’re killing everyone of my race” and “dang, electricity’s out again.”

Are you saying it’s crappy to be white in South Africa even if you’re not a poor farmer?

philipallstar•7mo ago
The prospects are terrible, as being a "pale male" is the worst sort of employee to be. Businesses are given extra money if they have high BBEEE ratings; i.e. mostly-racial quotas. Loads of money siphoned off, and not just in the usual high-corruption way via the state, but e.g. if you want to procure something you go through a black-owned procurement firm that doesn't do anything except BBEEE-wash it and charge a premium.

It's a bit like what happened in Zimbabwe that devastated that country 20 years ago when all the white farmers were kicked out, but in slower motion.

Xmd5a•7mo ago
BBBEE = Broad-Based Black Economic Empowerment

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Economic_Empowerment

MSFT_Edging•7mo ago
> It's a bit like what happened in Zimbabwe that devastated that country 20 years ago when all the white farmers were kicked out

Land reform to repair the inequality from the previous apartheid state isn't exactly "kicked out". Zimbabwe became Zimbabwe from Rhodesia via a civil war that wrestled control away from the minority white government.

In South Africa today, 75% of the privately owned land is held by about 8% of the population(white folks), who were given legal preference multiple times in history to own all that land.

Even if you remove apartheid, you still have a similar situation to antebellum US where ex slaves were working on the same old plantations, now as share croppers. Of course in SA we're not talking about ex slaves, but you're maintaining the status quo one way or another.

Land reform is required if your country ever wants to know peace. The US never finished reconstruction and didn't redistribute those plantations and other ill gotten gains, and as a result is still struggling to move past slavery.

Mashimo•7mo ago
> Land reform to repair the inequality from the previous apartheid state isn't exactly "kicked out".

I don't know too much about Zimbabwe. From what I read about 4,000 white farmers lost house and land, and now 40 years later they are giving compensation. Why can't you say "kicked out" for that?

I do lack the knowledge to say if it was justified or not. But I consider that a kick on the way out.

Or do you mean that what happens in SA is not to be considered getting kicked out?

MSFT_Edging•7mo ago
I mean that redistributing the fruits of an apartheid state to the previously second-class citizens is a net good, and to say they were kicked out without greater context does a disservice to the history.
ZeroGravitas•7mo ago
That scheme seems similar to how veteran owned business preferences are implemented in the US. I've read the exact same complaint about that.

So it may have unintended consequences but it seems to be as good a solution as the US could come up with.

ionosphere•7mo ago
Based on post history, this might be Elon Musk’s account.
h2zizzle•7mo ago
You colonized them, monopolized their resources, and used the spoils to fuel an apartheid state with some of the highest levels of inequality humanity has ever seen.

It's really, really difficult to think of a set-up that's more economically-distortive on its face; a complete dislocation of labor productivity and sovereignty.

There's no possible way that the "devastation" began with the end of apartheid. It was built into the existing system. Geez. Black South Africans (and Zimbabweans!) are building a way out m of a hole dug for them by their colonizers, with the cheapo equipment that the global monetary apparatus will (predatorily) lend them.

I have no doubt that it was not an ideal place to be, psychologically, as a white man. Materially? Eh.

verzali•7mo ago
>it's still pretty much the crappiest place to be as a tech / programming guy (or just anyone who likes having electricity).

I'm pretty sure Afghanistan is worse, but Trump says its okay to go back there.

jl6•7mo ago
It'll be worth it if the backlash is what brings about an end to "genocide inflation". Seriously, just because you don't like something, or even if it's really bad, doesn't make it genocide.
idiotsecant•7mo ago
It makes me morbidly curious what other 'fake genocides' you see as part of this epidemic of mislabeling ...
cmrdporcupine•7mo ago
You don't want to open the hatch on that one, my friend, you won't like what you'll see in the zeitgeist right now.
bgwalter•7mo ago
The broad definition is from the 1948 United Nations Convention:

https://www.ushmm.org/m/pdfs/20110210-what-is-genocide.pdf

Especially this one can be applied to many things:

c. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part.

MSFT_Edging•7mo ago
> intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial, or religious group

In this situation, it's specifically about farmers(large scale private landowners). The nature of them being targeted isn't purely because they're white, but that they hold 3/4 of the privately owned land in SA and likely wield that privilege and power.

bgwalter•7mo ago
Oh sure, my comment was addressing the general issue of perceived "genocide inflation". I have no knowledge about SA.
MSFT_Edging•6mo ago
Yeah, I think the person you were originally replying to was intended to whitewash actual genocidal activities currently happening, lumping this in with genuine ethnic cleansings to make a point of "genocide inflation".
Copenjin•7mo ago
That weirdo is really improving all products he touches. Please use words correctly and demand a government able to gracefully fix poverty, crime and public safety issues. Every issue is fixable with enough effort and money. Dumbed down discourse and nonsense ranting never fixed anything.
Copenjin•6mo ago
I hope that all those that downvoted will end up working for the very mentally stable Elon, good luck guys. It would be a learning experience.
ZeroGravitas•7mo ago
I wonder if any last minute homework essays, business plans or lawsuits will have a random white genocide tangent in them as a result?
sigmaisaletter•7mo ago
I mean you have to be really stupid to use Grok of all models for such a task, but that doesn't mean there aren't people that stupid.
parabyl•7mo ago
I was looking at South Africa's biggest annual developer survey today, and lo and behold some are using it for coding work.

I would assume it's people who pay for Twitter pro or whatever it's called getting Grok as part of the bundle and not wanting to sign up for another subscription.

GuinansEyebrows•7mo ago
i wonder what percentage of people using LLMs to do their homework care deeply about what model they're using outside of price factors. if i had to guess i don't think it'd be very high.
neves•7mo ago
Welcome to the our dystopian present.

Sure this was a reinforcement learning gone wild

The IAs trained by billionaires will colonize our minds. Everyone will think that the political system supported by Musk father is a reasonable one. It was Apartheid.

awongh•7mo ago
What's an actually non-tinfoil hat technical explanation of the workflow that would have to happen for this to be implemented?

Elon is known for his capricious demands, (for example reports that he made the algo promote his own tweets more) how easily feasible is it to implement, "make it so Grok stops denying white genocide"? Is it just some kind of LORA you put on top of the base Grok model? It even sounds like it could be as simple as changing the text of the system prompt.

I wonder how often this happens (to any big model) without anyone noticing.

luma•7mo ago
It's clearly a ham-handed system prompt, so it's always in context which is why it keeps getting brought up. This is the level of engineering expertise that xAI brings to the table.
pragmatic•7mo ago
https://www.anthropic.com/news/golden-gate-claude

Elon trying to amp white genocide.

awongh•7mo ago
Would they go to all the work of making a newly trained model, or would they just edit the system prompt?
josefritzishere•7mo ago
Most americans are generally uninformed on international politics, with African even more so. But we all know a certain CEO who is from South Africa and has some far right beleifs about race.
incomingpain•7mo ago
The linked Musk comment where a minor political leader is singing kill the white farmers:

https://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/national/2024-05-30-julius...

Supreme court ruled that it was not hate speech.

In context, south africa has been expropriating land from white owners due to historical racist inequalities. There's a great deal of tensions on the subject.

Statistically, there is significant violence against white farmers in South Africa. However, the counter to genocide is that the country's overall murder rate is among the highest in the world. The problem is because there's so many white farmers that it's skewing the data?

South Africa during no war has a murder rate of 45 deaths per 100,000 per year. One of the worsts in the world.

The Gaza war since 2023 has roughly a ~20 deaths per 100,000 per year.

Ukraine war is roughly ~25 deaths per 100,000 per year.

My unpopular opinion:

The government isnt the one committing the genocide. The courts failed to punish this political leader's hate speech and stochastic terrorism, leading to genocide of white farmers.

gpcr1949•7mo ago
I think it is an underestimation to say ~800 people died in the Gaza war. The Ukraine number also seems like a serious underestimation.
regularization•7mo ago
> The linked Musk comment where a minor political leader is singing kill the white farmers

You say he's singing about farmers, so tell us what lyric mentions farmers? There aren't any, you're inventing stuff. The news article you linked to is closer to accuracy than you.

1659447091•7mo ago
>Statistically, there is significant violence against white farmers in South Africa. However, the counter to genocide is that the country's overall murder rate is among the highest in the world. The problem is because there's so many white farmers that it's skewing the data?... South Africa during no war has a murder rate of 45 deaths per 100,000 per year. One of the worsts in the world.

Are you suggesting that most of those murdered are white farmers?

The "Third Quarter 2024/2025 Crime Stats Presentation" [pdf] from South African Police Service Crime stats [0] show between: October 2024 to December 2024 there were 6953 Murders in RSA.[pg 8] and of those there were 12 victims linked to the "farm/small holding" community [pg 32]. 5 farm dwellers, 4 employees, 1 Farmer, 1 Security, & 1 not specified.

12 people linked to farms (but only 1 Farmer murdered) in the last quarter of 2024 in a place with some of the highest murder rates in the world -- does Not white farmer genocide make, nor is it "significant violence against white farmers". There were 68 total "contact crimes" committed in Rural communities; and 187,892 "contact crimes" for RSA in that time.

Contact crimes being violent crimes (and not counting sexual offenses or robbery)

[0] https://www.saps.gov.za/services/crimestats.php

incomingpain•7mo ago
The "we're doing so bad at preventing murder and not just white people are dying" is the worst defensive I've ever seen. It makes the numbers sus at best. How many murders go undiscovered when police are doing that bad of a job?

How many murders go undiscovered because police cant safely enter an area? The numbers are much worse than reported and when that's happening, that's usually a genocide.

1659447091•7mo ago
What does that have to do with white farmers? Are you saying there are blockades in rural farm lands that prevent police from entering?

The stats don't even say if that one farmer was white black or any other color nor their sex. 5 of those 12, the employees/security killed, were most likely black, the farmer could have been as well. (same for the 4 dwellers if they were the employee's family that lives on the farm)

If you are claiming general genocide because many people kill other people for so many different reasons, that is not genocide. Considering how many women and children are killed due to domestic violence, maybe you can use the words femicide or filicide instead.

_tk_•7mo ago
Why would this be flagged? The chat bot on one of the biggest platforms in the world has apparently been configured to spout conspiracies. I’m not sure what would be on topic for HN if not this story.
AlecSchueler•7mo ago
A sizeable portion of users now believe that topics related to X are no longer suitable for HN, because Musk's relationship with the American government means conversation can quickly devolve into criticism of that government's policies which in turn can lead to flame wars.

Another explanation is that there's another discussion. At least on the comments for that discussion the explanation is that this discussion exists...

ggregoire•7mo ago
The other discussion is flagged too.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43987266

AlecSchueler•7mo ago
Yes, I thought it was notable that they were both flagged because the other existed.
tastyface•7mo ago
Because white supremacy is endemic in American culture (and tech).
lawn•7mo ago
Anything remotely related to Musk or Trump is targeted by people or bots to suppress it.

Even technology that would be very relevant to the site simply because it contains negative implications about Musk.

ChrisArchitect•7mo ago
Earlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43987266
ujkhsjkdhf234•7mo ago
This is meta because the immediate flagging of anything tangentially related to Musk or Trump is tiring and the exact opposite of critical thinking. Despite knowing that Hacker News rulers love Musk and Trump, I would expect better from the alleged critical thinking community. If this were Google instead of Grok, it would be front page. Oh wait, it was Google at one point[0] and it was front page.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39465250