frontpage.
newsnewestaskshowjobs

Made with ♥ by @iamnishanth

Open Source @Github

fp.

Open in hackernews

Project 1511 – Why we should train separate AIs – one for thruth, one for art

2•Wydmuh•9mo ago
Project 1511: The AI Dichotomy Initiative.

At the beginning i will mark, that text was written with the help of AI, my english is not as good as i thought .

Why i think we should split AI into two distinct, non-overlapping systems:

1. Kalkul (Logic Engine)

   - Puprouse: pure factual accuracy (STEM, law, medicine).  

   - Rules: No metaphors, no "I think" – only verifiable data.  

   - *Example Input:* "Calculate quantum decoherence times for qubits." → Output: Equations + peer-reviewed sources.  
2. Bard (Creative Agent)

   - Purpose: Unconstrained abstraction (art, philosophy, emotion).  

   - Rules: No facts, only meaning-making. Flagged disclaimers (e.g., "This is poetry, not truth").  

   - Example Input: "Describe grief as a physical space." → Output: "A room where the walls are made of old phone calls..."
The 8+2 Rule: Why Forcing Errors in Creative AI ('Bard') Makes It Stronger" We’re trapped in a loop: We train AI to "never" make mistakes, then wonder why it’s creatively sterile. What if we did the opposite?

The 8+2 Rule for "Bard" (Creative AI)

For every 10 responses, Bard generates: - 8 "logically sound" answers (baseline).

   - 2 *intentional errors* (wrong conclusions, flawed syllogisms, or "poetic" math).  
Errors are tagged (e.g., " Fallacy: Affirming the consequent") but not corrected. Users dissect errors to see how Bard breaks logic—and why it’s useful. Example: Question = "Explain democracy"

8 Correct Responses:

1. "A system where power derives from popular vote."

2. "Rule by majority, with protections for minorities."

[...]

2 Intentional Errors:

1. "Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep vote on dinner."

   - Error: False equivalence (politics ≠ predation).  

   - Value: Exposes fears of tyranny of the majority.  
2. "Democracy died in 399 BC when Socrates drank hemlock."

   - Error: Post hoc fallacy.  

   - Value: Questions elitism vs. popular will.  
Why This Works

Trains users , not just AI: - Spotting Bard’s errors becomes a "game" (like debugging code).

   - Users learn logic faster by seeing broken examples (studies show +30% retention vs. dry lectures).  
Bard’s "personality" emerges from flaws: - Its "voice" isn’t sanitized—errors reveal biases (e.g., libertarian vs. collectivist slant).

Safeguards "Kalkul": - By confining errors to Bard, Kalkul stays *pristine* (no hallucinations in medical advice).

3. Hybrid Bridge (Optional Legacy Mode)

   - Purpose: Temporary transition tool.  

   - Mechanics: ONLY merges pre-generated outputs from Kalkul/Bard without adding new content.  
Why It Matters

- Efficiency: 40-60% lower compute costs (no redundant "bridging" layers).

- Trust: eliminates hallucination risks in critical domains.

- Creative Freedom: Bard explores absurdity without algorithmic guilt.

- Education: Users learn to distinguish logic from artistry.

Technical Implementation

- Separate fine-tuning datasets:

  - Kalkul: arXiv, textbooks, structured databases.  

  - Bard: Surrealist literature, oral storytelling traditions.  
- UI with a physical toggle (or app tabs): `[FACT]` / `[DREAM]` / `[LEGACY]`.

Cultural Impact

- For Science: Restores faith in AI as a precision tool.

- For Art: Unleashes AI-aided creativity without "accuracy" constraints.

- For Society: Models intellectual honesty by not pretending opposites can merge.

Call to Action

I seek:

- Developers to prototype split models (e.g., fork DeepSeek-MoE).

- Philosophers to refine ethical boundaries.

- Investors who value specialization over artificial generalism.

Project 1511 isn’t an upgrade—it’s a rebellion against AI’s identity crisis.

Comments

henjodottech•9mo ago
Cool idea. I think LLMs aren’t built for intentional error. They’re wired to optimize meaning—next tokens chosen from attention scores, beam search. You can’t just flip logic and get creativity. You either get coherence or gibberish. If you want poetic mistakes, train on surreal input—but I wouldn’t expect avant-garde results.
Wydmuh•9mo ago
it was just my idea, assuming that biggest players will not give a f..ck. With premeditation i am using rule 8+2 with many diffrent AIs, and asking same question for the same. If with same coding answers are way diffrent and intersting

Latest ToS update includes class action waiver and forced arbitration

https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/50568
1•database64128•1m ago•0 comments

Myrient will shut down on 31 March 2026. Download any content you find important

https://myrient.erista.me
1•chaifeng•5m ago•0 comments

Neural-Temporal Compression – A State-Persistence Framework

https://github.com/andresuarus10-byte/memory-engine
1•KaelyrAT13•7m ago•1 comments

Show HN: A Calculator for Garden Horizons

https://gardenhorizons.app/
1•hugh1st•8m ago•0 comments

Doing a Video Call over a Database

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwIc9fFcYVw
1•Jacques2Marais•10m ago•0 comments

Superagers' Secret Ingredient May Be the Growth of New Brain Cells

https://www.sciencealert.com/superagers-secret-ingredient-may-be-the-growth-of-new-brain-cells
1•jnord•11m ago•0 comments

Fooling Go's X.509 Certificate Verification

https://danielmangum.com/posts/fooling-go-x509-certificate-verification/
1•hasheddan•13m ago•0 comments

'To be free, we have to be feared,' Macron says in keynote nuclear speech

https://www.france24.com/en/france/20260302-macron-unveils-france-nuclear-strategy-eu-counter-rus...
1•vrganj•13m ago•0 comments

I built a pint-sized Macintosh

https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2026/pint-sized-macintosh-pico-micro-mac/
2•ingve•19m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: How to get traction for Open-Source Projects

1•human_hack3r•20m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Proofbox – Defensive Publishing Platform to preserve freedom to operate

https://www.proofbox.co/en
2•gartheuncle•22m ago•0 comments

Building AI agent for our own company

https://blog.leanmcp.com/blog/llms-getting-leanmcp-wrong
1•dheerajmp•22m ago•0 comments

Show HN: I built a social media distribution tool that helps you find users

https://signal-grow.vercel.app
1•dog52841•25m ago•1 comments

Performance Analysis and Tuning on Modern CPUs 2nd edition [pdf]

https://github.com/dendibakh/perf-book/releases/download/2.0_release/PerformanceAnalysisAndTuning...
3•medbar•25m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Neural Siege – A Multi-Agent RL Combat Simulation

https://github.com/ayushdnb/Neural-Siege
2•luthor190397•29m ago•0 comments

4. How to Keep Using Nano Banana Pro After Gemini Replaces It with Nano Banana 2

2•zaaaaooo•30m ago•0 comments

Show HN: C-Suite Skills – a full exec team as skills

https://github.com/pollow/c-suite-skills
2•pollow•35m ago•0 comments

Veo 3 AI

https://veo-3-ai.org/
2•Evan233•39m ago•1 comments

Show HN: GitHub Repo Agent – an agent that explores and reasons on GitHub repos

https://github.com/gauravvij/GithubRepoAgent
3•gauravvij137•42m ago•0 comments

I Put a Full JVM Inside a Browser Tab

https://bmarti44.substack.com/p/i-put-a-full-jvm-inside-a-browser
3•todsacerdoti•44m ago•0 comments

Full speech pipeline in native Swift/MLX – ASR, TTS, speech-to-speech, on-device

https://github.com/ivan-digital/qwen3-asr-swift
2•ipotapov•44m ago•1 comments

People in northeast BC say rest of province should embrace year-round time zone

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/time-change-british-columbia-9.7112139
2•divbzero•45m ago•0 comments

California to require age verification for all OS including Linux

https://www.tomshardware.com/software/operating-systems/california-introduces-age-verification-law
4•hambes•46m ago•2 comments

Rare Not Random – Using Token Efficiency for Secrets Scanning

https://lookingatcomputer.substack.com/p/rare-not-random
2•boyter•48m ago•0 comments

Strict Monospace Font for LLM-CLI users using Chinese Japanese Korean, CodexMono

https://www.npmjs.com/package/@monolex/codexmono
4•monokist•51m ago•1 comments

Working on Things That Suck

https://mayberay.bearblog.dev/working-on-things-that-suck/
2•mugamuga•54m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: How Do Emergency Alerts on Phone Work?

2•rishikeshs•58m ago•2 comments

US President struggles to explain why he launched another Middle Eastern war

https://www.ft.com/content/fd31c6ad-39f0-4fae-851c-fadf44f006eb
10•Jimmc414•1h ago•3 comments

Apple Does Value (Week)

https://om.co/2026/03/02/apple-does-value-week/
1•tosh•1h ago•1 comments

The Pointless War Between The Pentagon and Anthropic

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/the-pointless-war-between-the-pentagon-and-anthropic-9284fd37
5•jrosenblatt•1h ago•2 comments