The real fraud is the idea that Social Security is rampant with fraud --- without being able to show any proof.
JumpCrisscross•8mo ago
The fact that DOGE went through as deeply as they did and found, to a rounding error, zero fraud, is sort of remarkable from my priors around government efficiency.
jqpabc123•8mo ago
In my experience, the majority of the fraud is legal.
Charging the DoD $400 for a toilet seat is an absolute fraud --- but perfectly legal if they agree to pay it.
Replacing perfectly functional equipment just in order to use up this year's budget and avoid cuts for next year is a common fraud that occurs at all levels of government --- done without breaking any laws.
JumpCrisscross•8mo ago
> In my experience, the majority of the fraud is legal
DOGE was never concerned with legality.
> Charging the DoD $400 for a toilet seat is an absolute fraud --- but perfectly legal if they agree to pay it
Sure. But we didn't find evidencde of this. In part because DOGE didn't bother with our military-industrial complex.
I'll grant that part of our government hasn't been certified clean or dirty. But the fact that DOGE was unable to find these $400 toilet seats practically anywhere, save, perhaps, for in USAID, is a clean-sheet record most enterprises would aspire to.
jqpabc123•8mo ago
"DOGE was never concerned with legality."
So they have their own special definition of "fraud"?
jqpabc123•8mo ago
JumpCrisscross•8mo ago
jqpabc123•8mo ago
Charging the DoD $400 for a toilet seat is an absolute fraud --- but perfectly legal if they agree to pay it.
Replacing perfectly functional equipment just in order to use up this year's budget and avoid cuts for next year is a common fraud that occurs at all levels of government --- done without breaking any laws.
JumpCrisscross•8mo ago
DOGE was never concerned with legality.
> Charging the DoD $400 for a toilet seat is an absolute fraud --- but perfectly legal if they agree to pay it
Sure. But we didn't find evidencde of this. In part because DOGE didn't bother with our military-industrial complex.
I'll grant that part of our government hasn't been certified clean or dirty. But the fact that DOGE was unable to find these $400 toilet seats practically anywhere, save, perhaps, for in USAID, is a clean-sheet record most enterprises would aspire to.
jqpabc123•8mo ago
So they have their own special definition of "fraud"?