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Ask HN: Working in a language that isn't your native one. How hard was it?

1•william-cooke•1m ago•0 comments

Call Center Tokocrypto

1•ajonnav•1m ago•0 comments

Pocketlang

https://thakeenathees.github.io/pocketlang/
1•shakna•2m ago•0 comments

Garuda Indonesia> Layanan Pelanggan

1•Nhorm•3m ago•0 comments

Customer Service Garuda

1•Nhorm•5m ago•0 comments

LLM APIs Are a Synchronization Problem

https://lucumr.pocoo.org/2025/11/22/llm-apis/
1•ingve•6m ago•0 comments

Conference installed a literal antivirus monitoring system

https://www.wired.com/story/this-hacker-conference-installed-a-literal-anti-virus-monitoring-system/
2•ldoughty•8m ago•1 comments

Show HN: Lovable Clone with K8s based orchestration Demo of POC

https://github.com/adityadeshlahre/elbavol
1•adityadeshlahre•10m ago•0 comments

Minimal CLI web security scanner

https://github.com/0xdevrel/EasyScan
1•introvertmac•13m ago•0 comments

Motorcycle Maintenance Tasks Riders Often Overlook (and How to Remember)

https://motormanage.app/blog/motorcycle-maintenance-tasks-riders-forget
1•l0rrenzz00•16m ago•0 comments

Kagi Hub Belgrade – coworking space for Kagi members

https://blog.kagi.com/kagi-hub
1•e-topy•18m ago•1 comments

Upcoming Dec. 23 DJI Drone Ban Will Affect ALL Product Lines–Not Just Drones

https://dronedj.com/2025/11/21/us-deadline-dji-drone-ban/
1•bookofjoe•20m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Call Scientists ICT Model Info–Consciousness–Time, Need Expert Feedback

https://www.academia.edu/s/8924eff666
1•DmitriiBaturo•21m ago•0 comments

Childhoods of Exceptional People

https://www.henrikkarlsson.xyz/p/childhoods
1•gmays•22m ago•0 comments

Cryptographers Held an Election. They Can't Decrypt the Results

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/21/world/cryptography-group-lost-election-results.html
2•wrayjustin•25m ago•1 comments

LinkedIn us loud, and corporate is hell

https://ramones.dev/posts/linkedin-is-loud/
1•ramon156•29m ago•0 comments

At the Boundary Between Waking Life and Sleep, What Happens in the Brain?

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/at-the-mysterious-boundary-between-waking-life-and-...
1•mhb•33m ago•0 comments

Boston Public Library digital archive of M.C. Escher's works

https://www.digitalcommonwealth.org/search?f%5Bcollection_name_ssim%5D%5B%5D=M.%20C.%20Escher%20%...
2•mhb•34m ago•0 comments

Epstein emails show close connection with MIT's Noam Chomsky

https://www.wbur.org/news/2025/11/20/emails-epstein-mit-harvard-trump-chomsky
2•tredeske•35m ago•0 comments

Tamagotchi Sprites

https://www.spriters-resource.com/lcd_handhelds/tamagotchiconnectionversion2/
2•memalign•37m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Compare Word documents in the browser (client-side only)

https://compare2word.com/
1•nighwatch•37m ago•0 comments

Why it takes months to tell if new AI models are good

https://www.seangoedecke.com/are-new-models-good/
1•ingve•40m ago•0 comments

Why and How You Should Persist Your OpenWrt Logs?

https://blog.mohammad-abbasi.me/en/p/why-and-how-you-should-persist-your-openwrt-logs/
2•mohammadv184•41m ago•0 comments

There may be a link to ADHD and substance use among young sexual minority men

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2025-11-link-adhd-substance-young-sexual.html
2•PaulHoule•51m ago•0 comments

Arc Is a Vision Problem

https://arxiviq.substack.com/p/arc-is-a-vision-problem
1•che_shr_cat•55m ago•0 comments

You can see a working Quantum Computer in IBM's London office

https://www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/you-can-see-a-working-quantum-computer-in-ibms-london-office...
1•thinkingemote•56m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Mamba2-Jax; Mamba2 implemented in pure Jax/Flax

https://github.com/CosmoNaught/mamba2-jax
2•cosmonaught1337•58m ago•0 comments

In What Universe Is Thinking Machines Lab Worth $50B

https://tickerfeed.net/articles/what-is-thinking-machines-lab-worth
4•sethops1•59m ago•1 comments

What you should know from a trove of ChatGPT conversations we analyzed

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/11/18/chagpt-conversations-analysis-learnings/
1•1vuio0pswjnm7•59m ago•1 comments

Intel is listening, don't waste your shot

https://www.brendangregg.com/blog//2025-11-22/intel-is-listening.html
2•chmaynard•1h ago•0 comments
Open in hackernews

The Lisp in the Cellar: Dependent types that live upstairs [pdf]

https://zenodo.org/records/15424968
88•todsacerdoti•6mo ago
Downloadable: https://zenodo.org/records/15424968/files/deputy-els.pdf

Comments

droideqa•6mo ago
Sadly "deputy clojure" on Google brings no results...

The only hint is this repo[0] referenced in the paper.

[0]: https://gitlab.com/fredokun/deputy

agumonkey•6mo ago
Pretty readable code
reuben364•6mo ago
Thinking out aloud here.

One pattern that I have frequently used in EMACS elisp is that redefining a top-level value overwrites that value rather than shadowing it. Basically hot reloading. This doesn't work in a dependently typed context as the type of subsequent definitions can depend on values of earlier definitions.

    def t := string
    def x: t := "asdf"
    redef t := int
redefining t here would cause x to fail to type check. So the only options are to either shadow the variable t, or have redefinitions type-check all terms whose types depend on the value being redefined.

Excluding the type-level debugging they mention, I think a lean style language-server is a better approach. Otherwise you are basically using an append-only ed to edit your environment rather than a vi.

extrabajs•6mo ago
I don’t see the connection to dependent types. But anyway, is ‘redef’ part of your language? What type would you give it?
reuben364•6mo ago
I just wrote redef to emphasize that I'm not shadowing the original definition.

    def a := 1
    def f x := a * x
    -- at this point f 1 evaluates to 1
    redef a := 2
    -- at this point f 1 evaluates to 2
But with dependent types, types can depend on prior values (in the previous example the type of x depends on the value t in the most direct way possible, as the type of x is t). If you redefine values, the subsequent definitions may not type-check anymore.
extrabajs•6mo ago
I see what you mean. But would you not experience the same sort of issue simply from redefining types in the same way? It seems this kind of destructive operation (whether on types or terms) is the issue. As someone who's used to ML, it seems strange to allow this kind of thing (instead of simply shadowing), but maybe it's a Lisp thing?
resize2996•6mo ago
> EMACS elisp

I used this to write the front end for an ATM machine.

wk_end•6mo ago
I've fantasized about some kind of a dependently-typed Smalltalk-like thing before, and in those fantasies the solution would be that changes would be submitted in the form of transactions - they wouldn't be live until you bundled them all together into one big change that would be fully type-checked, as you describe.
kscarlet•6mo ago
The only option that you described is called "hyperstatic global environment".

And it is called that for a reason, it is not very dynamic :) and probably too static to the taste of many Lisp and all Smalltalk fans.

dang•6mo ago
Any URL for this that we can open in a browser (as opposed to the dreaded "Content-Disposition: attachment")?
Jtsummers•6mo ago
https://zenodo.org/records/15424968 - This at least takes you to a webpage where you can view the paper. If you select to download it, it still downloads of course instead of just opening in the browser.
dang•6mo ago
Thanks! I've switched to that above, and put the downloadable link in the top text.
reikonomusha•6mo ago
Related context: The 2025 European Lisp Symposium [1] was just wrapped a few hours ago in Zurich. There was content on:

- Static typing a la Haskell with Coalton in Common Lisp

- Dependent typing with Deputy in Clojure (this post)

- The Common Lisp compiler SBCL ported to the Nintendo Switch

- Common Lisp and AI/deep learning

- A special retrospective on Modula and Oberon

- Many lightning talks.

[1] https://european-lisp-symposium.org/2025/index.html

no_wizard•6mo ago
I feel like Lisp would be an ideal language for AI development. Its exceedingly good for DSL development and pattern matching. Its already structurally like math notation as well, which I would think would lend itself to thinking how models would consume information and learn
rscho•6mo ago
Well... believe it or not, some have thought of using lisp for AI for quite some time. ;-)
froh•6mo ago
indeed.

Peter Norvig, 1992

Paradigms of AI Programming: Case Studies in Common Lisp

https://g.co/kgs/hck8wsE

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Norvig

it's no coincidence Google is actively maintaining sbcl, either.

Zambyte•6mo ago
Why not go all the way to the source? John McCarthy coined the term "artificial intelligence", and then invented / discovered LISP in pursuit of it in the 1950s :D
ayrtondesozzla•6mo ago
https://quantumzeitgeist.com/lisp-and-the-dawn-of-artificial...

Lisp was the de facto language of artificial intelligence in the U.S. for many years. Apparently Prolog was popular in Europe (according to Norvig's PAIP)

fithisux•6mo ago
Impressive.