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The Automation Charade (2018)

https://logicmag.io/failure/the-automation-charade/
1•measurablefunc•28s ago•0 comments

Sk HN: Where would you use a "digital guestbook" that supports paid messages?

https://thewalll.com
1•rapgof•1m ago•1 comments

The boomer-doomer divide within OpenAI, explained by Karen Hao

https://bigthinkmedia.substack.com/p/the-boomer-doomer-divide-within-openai
1•pseudolus•2m ago•0 comments

StikDebug Removed from App Store, Developer Account Terminated

https://twitter.com/stephendev0/status/2001734340389024180
1•tech234a•3m ago•0 comments

Startup beat Big Tech on AI interpretability – new method reveals model circuits

https://www.corti.ai/stories/gim-a-new-standard-for-mechanistic-interpretability
1•haileybayliss•5m ago•1 comments

Tacit – short films about tacit knowledge from Stripe Press

https://www.stripe.press/tacit
1•ChrisArchitect•8m ago•1 comments

The Universal Law Behind Market Price Swings

https://physics.aps.org/articles/v18/196
1•bikenaga•8m ago•0 comments

Screen Takeover Attack in AI Tool Acquired for $1B

https://www.promptarmor.com/resources/screen-takeover-attack-in-ai-tool-acquired-for-1b
5•vollmarj•11m ago•0 comments

Show HN: A native iOS client for managing Cloudflare

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/clouder-for-cloudflare/id6755757771
1•Jeramo•12m ago•0 comments

Treat Emacs as an Elisp Runtime Using Eask

https://www.jcs-profile.com/posts/editor/elisp-runtime/
2•Jen-Chieh•12m ago•0 comments

Did maintainers abandon your critical open-source tool? There's a lifeline

https://www.zdnet.com/article/chainguard-emeritoss-support-for-abandoned-open-source-programs/
2•CrankyBear•14m ago•0 comments

Interactive Fluid Typography

https://electricmagicfactory.com/articles/interactive-fluid-typography/
7•list•16m ago•0 comments

Snowflake Postgres Is Now Available in Public Preview

https://www.snowflake.com/en/engineering-blog/postgres-public-preview/
3•kermatt•18m ago•0 comments

Dijkstra: The strengths of the academic enterprise (1994)

https://www.cs.utexas.edu/~EWD/transcriptions/EWD11xx/EWD1175.html
1•milanhbs•18m ago•0 comments

Why Socrates Hated the Ancient Greeks' Version of Ted Talks

https://medium.com/@gp2030/plato-part-2-socrates-43777cbaa61b
1•light_triad•18m ago•0 comments

We can't measure LLM reasoning because LLMs don't inhabit a world

1•kimounbo•20m ago•0 comments

A faster path to container images in Bazel

https://www.tweag.io/blog/2025-12-18-rules_img/
1•malt3•21m ago•0 comments

Just Use AI

https://justfuckinguseai.com/
2•kyrylo•21m ago•0 comments

Is It a Joke?

https://novalis.org/blog/2025-11-06-is-it-a-joke.html
1•luu•23m ago•0 comments

T5Gemma 2: The next generation of encoder-decoder models

https://blog.google/technology/developers/t5gemma-2/
1•milomg•23m ago•0 comments

Move Expressions (Part of Ergonomic RC for Rust)

https://smallcultfollowing.com/babysteps/blog/2025/11/21/move-expressions/
1•stmw•24m ago•0 comments

Zero Inflation

https://thetontineengine.substack.com/p/make-money-hard-again
2•rwmj•25m ago•0 comments

2026 Demo Day Dates

https://www.ycombinator.com/blog/2026-demo-days/
1•todsacerdoti•26m ago•0 comments

$1,500 robot cooks dinner while I work

https://www.theverge.com/tech/840599/posha-robot-chef-review
3•bookofjoe•27m ago•2 comments

'Mars camp': The extreme adventure that wants to turn tourists into astronauts

https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/23/travel/mongolias-mars-camp-tourist-astronauts-hnk-spc
1•breve•27m ago•0 comments

Our Series B: $330M raised at $6.6B valuation

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How do you find early users for an MVP dev tool?

1•yashwantphogat•29m ago•0 comments

President Orders Cannabis Rules Relaxed, Easing Research

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/12/18/us/trump-news
5•thelastgallon•30m ago•2 comments

How to hack Discord, Vercel and more with one easy trick

https://kibty.town/blog/mintlify/
6•todsacerdoti•30m ago•2 comments

Show HN: Narrativee – Make sense of your data in minutes

https://narrativee.com
2•safoan_eth•32m ago•0 comments
Open in hackernews

The Lisp in the Cellar: Dependent types that live upstairs [pdf]

https://zenodo.org/records/15424968
88•todsacerdoti•7mo ago
Downloadable: https://zenodo.org/records/15424968/files/deputy-els.pdf

Comments

droideqa•7mo ago
Sadly "deputy clojure" on Google brings no results...

The only hint is this repo[0] referenced in the paper.

[0]: https://gitlab.com/fredokun/deputy

agumonkey•7mo ago
Pretty readable code
reuben364•7mo ago
Thinking out aloud here.

One pattern that I have frequently used in EMACS elisp is that redefining a top-level value overwrites that value rather than shadowing it. Basically hot reloading. This doesn't work in a dependently typed context as the type of subsequent definitions can depend on values of earlier definitions.

    def t := string
    def x: t := "asdf"
    redef t := int
redefining t here would cause x to fail to type check. So the only options are to either shadow the variable t, or have redefinitions type-check all terms whose types depend on the value being redefined.

Excluding the type-level debugging they mention, I think a lean style language-server is a better approach. Otherwise you are basically using an append-only ed to edit your environment rather than a vi.

extrabajs•7mo ago
I don’t see the connection to dependent types. But anyway, is ‘redef’ part of your language? What type would you give it?
reuben364•7mo ago
I just wrote redef to emphasize that I'm not shadowing the original definition.

    def a := 1
    def f x := a * x
    -- at this point f 1 evaluates to 1
    redef a := 2
    -- at this point f 1 evaluates to 2
But with dependent types, types can depend on prior values (in the previous example the type of x depends on the value t in the most direct way possible, as the type of x is t). If you redefine values, the subsequent definitions may not type-check anymore.
extrabajs•7mo ago
I see what you mean. But would you not experience the same sort of issue simply from redefining types in the same way? It seems this kind of destructive operation (whether on types or terms) is the issue. As someone who's used to ML, it seems strange to allow this kind of thing (instead of simply shadowing), but maybe it's a Lisp thing?
resize2996•7mo ago
> EMACS elisp

I used this to write the front end for an ATM machine.

wk_end•7mo ago
I've fantasized about some kind of a dependently-typed Smalltalk-like thing before, and in those fantasies the solution would be that changes would be submitted in the form of transactions - they wouldn't be live until you bundled them all together into one big change that would be fully type-checked, as you describe.
kscarlet•7mo ago
The only option that you described is called "hyperstatic global environment".

And it is called that for a reason, it is not very dynamic :) and probably too static to the taste of many Lisp and all Smalltalk fans.

dang•7mo ago
Any URL for this that we can open in a browser (as opposed to the dreaded "Content-Disposition: attachment")?
Jtsummers•7mo ago
https://zenodo.org/records/15424968 - This at least takes you to a webpage where you can view the paper. If you select to download it, it still downloads of course instead of just opening in the browser.
dang•7mo ago
Thanks! I've switched to that above, and put the downloadable link in the top text.
reikonomusha•7mo ago
Related context: The 2025 European Lisp Symposium [1] was just wrapped a few hours ago in Zurich. There was content on:

- Static typing a la Haskell with Coalton in Common Lisp

- Dependent typing with Deputy in Clojure (this post)

- The Common Lisp compiler SBCL ported to the Nintendo Switch

- Common Lisp and AI/deep learning

- A special retrospective on Modula and Oberon

- Many lightning talks.

[1] https://european-lisp-symposium.org/2025/index.html

no_wizard•7mo ago
I feel like Lisp would be an ideal language for AI development. Its exceedingly good for DSL development and pattern matching. Its already structurally like math notation as well, which I would think would lend itself to thinking how models would consume information and learn
rscho•7mo ago
Well... believe it or not, some have thought of using lisp for AI for quite some time. ;-)
froh•7mo ago
indeed.

Peter Norvig, 1992

Paradigms of AI Programming: Case Studies in Common Lisp

https://g.co/kgs/hck8wsE

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Norvig

it's no coincidence Google is actively maintaining sbcl, either.

Zambyte•7mo ago
Why not go all the way to the source? John McCarthy coined the term "artificial intelligence", and then invented / discovered LISP in pursuit of it in the 1950s :D
ayrtondesozzla•7mo ago
https://quantumzeitgeist.com/lisp-and-the-dawn-of-artificial...

Lisp was the de facto language of artificial intelligence in the U.S. for many years. Apparently Prolog was popular in Europe (according to Norvig's PAIP)

fithisux•7mo ago
Impressive.