frontpage.
newsnewestaskshowjobs

Made with ♥ by @iamnishanth

Open Source @Github

fp.

Open in hackernews

Show HN: Brainfuck to RISC-V JIT compiler written in Zig

https://github.com/evelance/brainiac
5•0x000xca0xfe•5mo ago
Hi everybody,

this was my project to learn Zig and RISC-V+x86_64 assembly.

Not sure if anybody is actually interested in yet another Brainfuck compiler, so I'll just write up some random things I learned while building it!

- A primitive assembly stitching compiler is 10x faster than the interpreter. Did not expect that.

- The generated x86 code is really bad (e.g. it always uses 6 or 7 byte sized instructions with 32-bit immediates when there are much smaller ones) but it doesn't really matter. Good code generated by GCC and clang for transpiled Brainfuck->C is not much faster as it's bottlenecked by memory accesses anyways.

- Zig is pretty far along actually. You can make serious projects with it!

- But the community seems to like self-punishment. Unused parameters and variables are hard errors and there is no way to disable that even for debug builds. Makes quickly commenting out part of the code a real PITA.

- I've had a miscompilation due to std.mem.span being broken and two source code breaks going from Zig 0.13 to 0.15 (std.mem.page_size got removed and ArrayList.popOrNull as well).

- But arbitrary size integers are fantastic! And well-defined two's complement behaviour!

Here is for example the code that encodes the c.beqz instruction:

  /// Branch if Equal to Zero (compressed): c.beqz rs1', offset -> beq rs1, x0, offset
  pub fn c_beqz(text: *std.ArrayList(u8), rs1: RV_X, offset: i9) !void {
      std.debug.assert(is3BitReg(rs1));
      std.debug.assert(@mod(offset, 2) == 0);
      const imm: u9 = @bitCast(offset);
      const RV_CB = packed struct(u16) {
          op: u2,
          offset5: u1,
          offset1_2: u2,
          offset6_7: u2,
          rsd_rs1_: u3,
          offset3_4: u2,
          offset8: u1,
          funct3: u3,
      };
      const ins = RV_CB {
          .op = 0x1,
          .offset5 = @truncate(imm >> 5),
          .offset1_2 = @truncate(imm >> 1),
          .offset6_7 = @truncate(imm >> 6),
          .rsd_rs1_ = @truncate(@intFromEnum(rs1) - 8),
          .offset3_4 = @truncate(imm >> 3),
          .offset8 = @truncate(imm >> 8),
          .funct3 = 0x6,
      };
      try appendInstruction(text, u16, @bitCast(ins));
  }
This is really nice as all the exotic integer sizes are actually checked, too.

- Zig support for Windows is good. Porting the project to Windows was very easy.

- When the RISC-V registers are carefully chosen, almost all instructions could be compressed in this projects.

- Compressed instructions and good branching code (using the branch instructions directly when the jump range is small enough instead of branching over a larger jump instruction) did not noticeably change performance on real hardware (OrangePi RV2).

- But somehow QEMU got a massive boost from that. Not sure why exactly.

So, that's about it!

I hope at least something was interesting...

Comments

sylware•5mo ago
thumbs up for this project (everything RISC-V is usually).

I write rv64 assembly (nearly core only, without memory reservation instructions) and run it on x86_64 with a very small (x86_64 assembly written) interpreter.

And your are right, I have had thoughts about a "RISC-V" x86_64 compiler (but it will probably require some runtime unfortunately).

Hopefully, rv22+ hardware with ultra-performant µ-architecture and with the latest silicon process will happen sooner than we expect. One less PI toxic lock and cleaner, _really standard_ assembly (the end game of much software).

0x000xca0xfe•5mo ago
Yeah I can't wait for a performant RISC-V core. Runtime code generation is so easy for RISC-V. I have many ideas or projects where I'd like to use it but it feels kinda pointless when JITed RISC-V machine code on current hardware gets destroyed by any half-decent x86 PC or Mac running naive C code.
sylware•5mo ago
Well, here are the tricks: interpreted rv64 assembly will be "slow"... actually "slower" than x86_64 native code... but in many execution contexts, for many pieces of software, here the first trick: the "slow" interpreted rv64 assembly machine code will be... "fast" enough... The 2nd trick: I have control on my rv64 machine interpreter, and I can write native x86_64 acceleration assembly along side of a rv64 reference implementation (I planned to do just that for my CPU renderer in my wayland compositor... actually I have already AVX2 code for some of that, even though the sweet spot is AVX512, but don't have the hardware for this, yet).

And once we have this rv64 shiny hardware, certainly won't be a drop-in, but the distance to code will be minimal.

One important SDK thing: I am careful at using the smallest number of rv64 machine instructions (we tend to forget 'R' in "RISC-V" means 'R'educed...), and I use basic, really basic, C preprocessors instead of the assembler preprocessor in order to decouple the assembly code from a specific assembler preprocessor. I don't even use assembler pseudo-instructions, or ABI register names, neither compressed machine instructions.

On top of that: I don't use ELF, I use a super minimal executable/system interface dynamic shared library format of my own, omega idiotically simple, which I wrap in ELF binaries for transparent support. People have to come to realize, ELF complexity, for a executable/system interface dynamic shared library is utterly and completely obsolete, even a liability once you are looking for binary stability in time (cf games), proven over more than the last decade.

Show HN: I built a Nano Banana 2 (Gempix2) playground for 4K AI images

https://www.gempix2.site
1•bryandoai•57s ago•0 comments

A raw pptx file content reader

https://awheelmaker.com/pptx-content-reader
1•RockieYang•3m ago•0 comments

Reliable Confidence Intervals for Information Retrieval Evaluation

https://arxiv.org/abs/2407.02464
1•matesz•3m ago•0 comments

Layanan Pusat Bantuan Agoda

1•nameer0162•4m ago•0 comments

Highlights from Git 2.52

https://github.blog/open-source/git/highlights-from-git-2-52/
2•ingve•7m ago•0 comments

Customer Service Agoda Reschedule

1•nameer0162•8m ago•0 comments

Cambridge Dictionary's Word of the Year 2025

https://dictionaryblog.cambridge.org/2025/11/18/cambridge-dictionary-word-of-the-year-2025/
1•ChrisArchitect•8m ago•1 comments

Panjandrum – 5 Minute Documentary [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1p9GVEyD9Y
1•thunderbong•9m ago•0 comments

Template Interpreters

https://zackoverflow.dev/writing/template-interpreters/
1•zackoverflow•13m ago•1 comments

Layanan Agoda Reschedule Hotel

1•clever-nero•13m ago•0 comments

Layanan Agoda Reschedule

1•clever-nero•15m ago•0 comments

Layanan Bank DBS – CS DBS 24 Jam

1•clever-nero•15m ago•0 comments

Human behavior is an intuition-pump for AI risk

https://invertedpassion.com/human-behavior-is-an-intuition-pump-for-ai-risk/
1•paraschopra•21m ago•0 comments

Declaration of Digital Independence

https://digitalindependence.eu/
1•robin_reala•23m ago•1 comments

Ask HN: Why the Black Line on Top?

1•BaudouinVH•24m ago•3 comments

A subtly obvious e-paper room air monitor (Part 1: Why?)

https://www.nicolin-dora.ch/blog/en-epaper-room-air-monitor-part-1/
1•nomarv•26m ago•1 comments

Valar Atomics: First Startup to Achieve Criticality

https://twitter.com/isaiah_p_taylor/status/1990535382438719825
1•mariecurie•26m ago•1 comments

Orchestro CLI – Intelligent testing framework for CLI/TUI applications

https://github.com/jonthemediocre/orchestro-cli
1•Jonthemediocre•26m ago•1 comments

Show HN: Hirelens – AI Resume Analyzer for International Job Seekers

https://www.hirelens.co/
1•hl_maker•33m ago•0 comments

Quake.exe got its TCP/IP stack

https://fabiensanglard.net/quake_chunnel/
2•todsacerdoti•35m ago•0 comments

The Most-Watched YouTube Video Hasn't Made Its Creator Rich

https://www.wsj.com/tech/the-worlds-most-watched-youtube-video-hasnt-made-its-creator-rich-e409f9a9
1•Brajeshwar•36m ago•0 comments

Jeffrey Epstein used SEO to bury news about his crimes

https://www.theverge.com/report/822311/jeffrey-epstein-emails-google-search-seo-pr
6•timpera•38m ago•2 comments

AI scientist claimed to do six months of research in just a few hours

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2503516-ai-scientist-claimed-to-do-six-months-of-research-in...
1•Brajeshwar•41m ago•0 comments

The Zero-Bullshit Protocol

https://gracefultc.gumroad.com/l/wuxpg
1•Thugonerd•41m ago•1 comments

Kinescope

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinescope
1•exvi•44m ago•0 comments

COP30 climate pledges favor unrealistic land-based carbon removal over em. cuts

https://phys.org/news/2025-11-cop30-climate-pledges-favor-unrealistic.html
2•g-b-r•44m ago•0 comments

The oddest UN resolutions in history seeks to solidify shaky Gaza ceasefire

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/nov/18/one-of-the-oddest-un-resolutions-in-history-seeks-t...
1•NomDePlum•44m ago•0 comments

China Escalates Spat with Japan over Comments Made About Taiwan [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAnsFsZDBVY
1•mgh2•53m ago•0 comments

Ex-World Bank Insider on Declining West and the New World Order [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qAvOxGESvs
2•gessha•57m ago•0 comments

The Polygons of Another World: Super Nintendo (2020)

https://fabiensanglard.net/another_world_polygons_SNES/
1•tosh•59m ago•1 comments