Another day, another RIIR on the JavaScript ecosystem.
Maybe those of us using JavaScript only on the frontend had something going on for it, just saying.
alain_gilbert•8mo ago
I think you guys just made a bunch of low hanging fruits that are dead easy to make way better without too much effort.
Which also provide the opportunity to maybe have a fairly successful project for the author of the rewrite project.
pjmlp•8mo ago
I fail to see how nodejs is better than JVM/CLR, and I am around for quite a few decades, other than selling bootcamps, but that is just me.
alain_gilbert•8mo ago
I think I misread your original comment. We both seems to agree on the same things.
crabmusket•8mo ago
I can't really understand what you are trying to say but it sounds vaguely negative?
I put it to you, why shouldn't Vite decide that Rust is the "right tool for the job" in their case?
pjmlp•8mo ago
In general, if everyone is rewriting their JavaScript code into Rust, maybe they should ask themselves why they are using JavaScript at all outside the browser.
By way, this used to be how Javascript related tools for browser deployments were written before nodejs became a thing.
hombre_fatal•8mo ago
Because they don’t want to write Rust, especially not for applications, but they don’t mind if someone wants to implement their tools in Rust.
Did this need to be said?
The language you might use to speed up a build tool has little to do with the language I might want to use to build most software I write, especially the application layer.
pjmlp•8mo ago
WebAssembly enters the room.
hombre_fatal•8mo ago
And then it immediately leaves the room because it's a horrible way to write application logic on the server.
imtringued•8mo ago
They are rewriting the build tools, because the NPM ecosystem produces a bloated mess of multi megabyte bundles out of the box and you have to re-bundle from scratch during development every time you change even a single file.
pjmlp•8mo ago
A side effect of the whole using JavaScript on the server.
Next step, rewrite npm.
rk06•8mo ago
This is quite an achievement because I thought vite was already fast enough.
pjmlp•8mo ago
Maybe those of us using JavaScript only on the frontend had something going on for it, just saying.
alain_gilbert•8mo ago
Which also provide the opportunity to maybe have a fairly successful project for the author of the rewrite project.
pjmlp•8mo ago
alain_gilbert•8mo ago
crabmusket•8mo ago
I put it to you, why shouldn't Vite decide that Rust is the "right tool for the job" in their case?
pjmlp•8mo ago
By way, this used to be how Javascript related tools for browser deployments were written before nodejs became a thing.
hombre_fatal•8mo ago
Did this need to be said?
The language you might use to speed up a build tool has little to do with the language I might want to use to build most software I write, especially the application layer.
pjmlp•8mo ago
hombre_fatal•8mo ago
imtringued•8mo ago
pjmlp•8mo ago
Next step, rewrite npm.