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X11, Xlibre, and the Schism at the Heart of Open Source

https://gizvault.com/archives/the-schism-at-the-heart-of-opensource
7•ricecat•23h ago

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not_your_vase•21h ago

  > For now, the question is not whether Xlibre will succeed technically.
It doesn't have a chance. It would have made more sense if he forked Wayland, and started to work on bring it up to feature parity with X11. That would have been a good "let me show you how it's done" move. But alas.
olemindgv•18h ago
He is going to loose either way, either forking X11 or Wayland. I think making Wayland more open is the key.
olemindgv•18h ago
Not sure if there is a conspiracy theory behind. By all means, X11 has been nearly 40 years since its birth from MIT, many things, both the network and underlining architectures, have seen significant changes.
zahlman•11h ago
The sheer petulance of the Xorg developers is really quite stunning, not to mention the obsession they demonstrate with the politics of their enemies (the ones they make on political grounds). For example, here's Jordan Petridis:

https://mastodon.social/@alatiera/114661446785833161

Imagine proposing that people who fork an open source project, out of frustration that you don't maintain it, are thereby doing something wrong. Imagine publicly celebrating "killing" an open-source project that your(?) community somehow "owns".

Imaging going on at length about everything you can dig up about the politics of someone who has wronged you; now imagine feeling wronged because the other party exercised the rights granted under the MIT license. A reminder here that the definition of Open Source, as curated by the OSI, requires "The license must not discriminate against any person or group of persons." (https://opensource.org/osd). Not for any reason, including not liking their politics. Not even if you think they'll discriminate against someone else (I see no actual reason to believe this of Weigelt). As long as they follow the license you grant them.

And then there's this blog post about how X11 support is being dropped from GNOME:

https://blogs.gnome.org/alatiera/2025/06/08/the-x11-session-...

Try to imagine a right-winger signing off a blog post with something analogous, completely unrelated to the technical content of the post. I can't. (I'm not quoting it because a) I'm not here to critique the views and b) I'm trying to be better. This is supposed to be a meta-level point, about how much they talk about politics and use political identity - not about what the politics in question actually are.)

I'm not at all surprised to learn that this guy is (theoretically) young enough to be my kid.

Cargo fuzz: Making it easy to fuzz Rust code

https://github.com/rust-fuzz/cargo-fuzz
1•chilipepperhott•24s ago•0 comments

Modularizing George Cave's eInk Energy Dashboard

https://slipway.co/blog/eink-energy-dashboard
1•jamesthurley•29s ago•0 comments

How to Get the RSS Feed for Any YouTube Channel (2024)

https://chuck.is/yt-rss/
1•mooreds•1m ago•0 comments

HTML WARDen (an HTML-based wiki)

https://ratfactor.com/htmlwarden/
1•Bogdanp•1m ago•0 comments

Shoelace: A forward-thinking library of web components

https://shoelace.style/
1•mooreds•2m ago•1 comments

When Does US Debt Become Genuinely Bad? [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi7RvweuIUk
1•mooreds•3m ago•0 comments

Scaling Laws in Autonomous Driving

https://waymo.com/blog/2025/06/scaling-laws-in-autonomous-driving
1•ra7•7m ago•0 comments

Don't stop till you get enough – sample size in machine learning

https://blog.engora.com/2025/06/dont-stop-till-you-get-enough-sample.html
2•Vermin2000•7m ago•0 comments

What's Not to Like about "Unlikeable Characters"?

https://countercraft.substack.com/p/whats-not-to-like-about-unlikeable
1•crescit_eundo•9m ago•0 comments

I collect 8k leads/week w AI Lead Magnet

https://www.quickgen.ai/
2•iamqhsin•10m ago•1 comments

Erie Insurance Reports 'Information Security Event' Caused Network Outage

https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/east/2025/06/11/827295.htm
1•noworld•12m ago•0 comments

IBM Has a Roadmap to a 'Fault-Tolerant' Quantum Computer by 2029

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ibm-has-a-roadmap-to-a-fault-tolerant-quantum-computer-by-2029-91645d73
1•gmays•13m ago•0 comments

Webb telescope spots infant planets in different stages of development

https://www.dawn.com/news/1916812
2•Brajeshwar•16m ago•0 comments

Fucoidans are senotherapeutics that enhance SIRT6-dependent DNA repair

https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-6613032/v1
2•bilsbie•22m ago•1 comments

The Hat, the Spectre and SAT Solvers (2024)

https://www.nhatcher.com/post/on-hats-and-sats/
8•todsacerdoti•24m ago•0 comments

Transfer – A simple local file server app for Android

https://github.com/matan-h/Transfer
1•matan-h•25m ago•0 comments

Luxe Game Engine

https://luxeengine.com/
29•garrypettet•26m ago•3 comments

Tech Giants' New AI Ad Tools Threaten Big Agencies

https://www.wsj.com/articles/tech-giants-new-ai-ad-tools-threaten-big-agencies-75d54a8a
2•thm•27m ago•0 comments

A Simple Showcase for the Sea-of-Nodes Compiler IR

https://github.com/SeaOfNodes/Simple
3•surprisetalk•27m ago•0 comments

'We're done with Teams': German state hits uninstall on Microsoft

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250613-we-re-done-with-teams-german-state-hits-uninstall-on-microsoft
13•taubek•28m ago•1 comments

Israel "had clear U.S. green light for Iran strike"

https://www.axios.com/2025/06/13/how-israel-executed-strike-iran-nuclear
8•cempaka•29m ago•0 comments

Parquet on Iceberg Outperforms MergeTree

https://altinity.com/blog/the-future-has-arrived-parquet-on-iceberg-finally-outperforms-mergetree
1•higeorge13•29m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: Why does EU institutions and member gov. websites have cookie banners?

4•karel-3d•29m ago•3 comments

Ask HN: Is ageism in tech still a problem?

18•leonagano•29m ago•4 comments

Show HN: 10k Lines of Basic

http://10klob.com/
1•tuveson•30m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Algochat – Real-Time AI Chatbots for Streamers

https://www.algochat.io
3•khanwave•31m ago•1 comments

NASA scientist tasked with identifying asteroids on collision course with Earth

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-31/nasa-officer-tasked-with-protecting-earth-from-asteroids/105354010
1•Tomte•32m ago•0 comments

Stuck? Build Your Language Backwards

https://jimmyhmiller.com/build-your-language-backwards
2•surprisetalk•33m ago•0 comments

What I talk about when I talk about IRs

https://bernsteinbear.com/blog/irs/
3•surprisetalk•33m ago•0 comments

RFC: type safe search params defined in routes.ts

https://github.com/remix-run/react-router/discussions/13800
2•atroxone•33m ago•0 comments