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Ask HN: Genuine alternatives to Google and Apple for releasing paid apps

14•asjdflakjsdf•15h ago
Obviously they both offer an incredible service but competition is always good!

Comments

bitpush•15h ago
On iPhones, Apple forbids third party appstores. You cannot also sideload. So that's a no go.

On Androids, I think you can install third party appstores. fdroid is the one I've heard before, but there could be more.

teleforce•13h ago
>On iPhones, Apple forbids third party appstores. You cannot also sideload

Very sad state of affair considering we are progressing into the 2nd quarter of the 21st Century, and some people are not complaining but willingly embracing (paying) into this by design incapability in the name of security and convenience (read profit margins).

It's methaphorically like willingly living in a country with virtual great wall around with a benevelont dictator but it's one of the life choices that people voluntarily need to make nonetheless.

pabs3•12h ago
Interestingly, moving countries (to the EU) could get you the option to break out of Apple's great wall.
pabs3•12h ago
In the EU, iPhone users can install from alternative sources:

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/117767

Elfener•8h ago
It's still not like Android though.

> All apps available through alternative app distribution are submitted to a Notarisation process with Apple.

mackenziebowes•15h ago
Web Apps & PWAs :) There's a lot you can do to optimize offline PWA use.
WantonQuantum•15h ago
It would be great to see an "app store" that drives discoverability of PWA apps.

Edit: googled and found this: https://store.app/

mackenziebowes•14h ago
Handsome site, but doesn't seem very active sadly.

PWAs really struggle with distribution - it comes down to the PWA maker (or team) having enough charisma, alignment, and budget to get people to follow the kind of arcane instructions for installing each unique PWA.

jaggs•8h ago
But in most cases installing a PWA requires nothing more than 'Add to Home screen' in your mobile browser of choice. 5 seconds.
mackenziebowes•1h ago
Trying not to be sneering here; most consumers consider this to be offensively difficult compared to the traditional app store experience - I had to do a lot of guides and handholding to get my PWA installed. But, Yea, true for us computer expert guys.
cranberryturkey•15h ago
PWA Babyb~~~~
glompers•10h ago
Most of these [0] started as desktop software but some have extended to mobile devices in ways that can interact via cloud with the version on your desktop, if I'm not mistaken.

[0] https://www.artisanalsoftwarefestival.com/

Llm.codes: Transform Developer Docs to Clean Markdown

https://steipete.me/posts/llm-codes-transform-developer-docs
1•ingve•1m ago•0 comments

Another one for the graveyard: Google to kill Instant Apps in December

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/06/another-one-for-the-graveyard-google-to-kill-instant-apps-in-december/
1•pjmlp•3m ago•0 comments

Replacing RAG with Long Context: VibeRank's Approach

https://medium.com/@viberank.dev/replacing-rag-with-long-context-viberanks-approach-00ec56c64026
1•viberank•5m ago•0 comments

Some US researchers want to leave the country. Can Europe take them?

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-01629-4
5•rntn•5m ago•0 comments

DIY NAS NVMe or SATA? JBOD Scale Out with SFF-8643 and SFF-8654 connectors

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMCHZVsAKdo
1•transpute•5m ago•0 comments

Deloitte is now offering employees a unique wellness benefit: subsidized Legos

https://fortune.com/well/2025/06/13/deloitte-subsidized-legos-wellness-benefit/
1•taubek•5m ago•0 comments

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https://jobschat.ai/chat
1•mabdine•5m ago•0 comments

AMD's Pre-Zen Interconnect: Testing Trinity's Northbridge

https://chipsandcheese.com/p/amds-pre-zen-interconnect-testing
1•zdw•7m ago•0 comments

Meta has created the saddest place on the internet with its AI's public feed

https://www.businessinsider.com/mark-zuckerberg-meta-ai-chatbot-discover-feed-depressing-why-2025-6
5•JumpCrisscross•8m ago•0 comments

AI-generated podcasts open new doors to make science accessible

https://academic.oup.com/eurjcn/advance-article/doi/10.1093/eurjcn/zvaf074/8161719
1•geox•20m ago•0 comments

Festival goers told to remove smartwatches after moshpits spark emergency alerts

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2025/jun/14/download-festivalgoers-warned-accidental-999-calls-moshpit
2•Fizzadar•22m ago•1 comments

BuntDB – A fast, embeddable, in-memory key/value database for Go

https://github.com/tidwall/buntdb
1•deepmistry•23m ago•0 comments

PCIe 7.0 specs finalized at 512 GBps bandwidth, PCIe 8.0 in the pipeline

https://www.theregister.com/2025/06/13/pcie_70_specs_finalized/
3•Brajeshwar•23m ago•0 comments

I built Campfire – a tool to find dev collaborators via GitHub

https://campfire-u5uj.onrender.com/
1•Hindol007•23m ago•2 comments

DNA Study Reveals Bed Bugs Were Earth's First True Urban Pests

https://studyfinds.org/dna-study-reveals-bed-bugs-were-earths-first-true-urban-pests/
2•Brajeshwar•23m ago•0 comments

Is Gravity Just Entropy Rising? Long-Shot Idea Gets Another Look

https://www.quantamagazine.org/is-gravity-just-entropy-rising-long-shot-idea-gets-another-look-20250613/
3•Brajeshwar•23m ago•0 comments

What Are the Most Underrated Tools You Use Every Day?

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What Is Open Source?

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Exploring 16-bit Bus Access on the PC/AT

https://martypc.blogspot.com/2025/06/exploring-16-bit-bus-access-on-pcat.html
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The Ad Industry's A.I. Reckoning

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/14/business/dealbook/the-ad-industrys-ai-reckoning.html
2•donohoe•27m ago•0 comments

Nvidia RTX 2080 Ti: 7 Years from Launch and Still Going Strong but How? [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkORIIPmZWc
2•teleforce•27m ago•2 comments

Show HN: Expand Images on a Canvas UX

https://expandimage.ai/
1•jchiu1234•30m ago•0 comments

Inside the Apollo "8-Ball" FDAI (Flight Director / Attitude Indicator)

https://www.righto.com/2025/06/inside-apollo-fdai.html
16•zdw•31m ago•3 comments

People like renewable energy but not necessarily its power lines. Here's why

https://techxplore.com/news/2025-06-people-renewable-energy-necessarily-power.html
2•PaulHoule•34m ago•0 comments

How the Protests Could Break Trump's Deportation Machine

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/13/opinion/ice-protests.html
4•whack•35m ago•0 comments

Scientific Knowledge and Its Social Problems

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_Knowledge_and_Its_Social_Problems
2•wslh•36m ago•0 comments

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https://www.cagrigokpunar.com/apps/Cogio/
1•masterpos•37m ago•1 comments

Goodhart's Law

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodhart%27s_law
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The Magic of Code [Book Review]

https://www.wsj.com/arts-culture/books/the-magic-of-code-review-the-book-of-binary-211654fc
1•bookofjoe•38m ago•0 comments

Eliciting Fine-Tuned Transformer Capabilities via Inference-Time Techniques

https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.08060
1•codelion•39m ago•0 comments