If data centers generate that much heat, which is the only reason it consumes significant energy, then should the focus be capturing that and turn it into another energy source?
AI is a drop in the bucket compared to the insanely unnecessary nonsense that people buy because they just want more crap.
Anyone who is talking about how much energy AI uses should be looking at themselves and their communities as well. Change begins with small decisions/actions and americans have been convinced that small decisions/actions don't make a difference because it's an easy excuse to do nothing.
There are a handful of very simple things people can do that would make a huge difference, such as reducing food waste/red meat consumption, less air travel, using less energy to power their homes, buying less stuff, using less plastic(buy glass/metal stuff) and driving less. All those things can reduce an individual's consumption by over 50%(red meat can make up nearly 30% of that reduction). But nobody wants to do these things because we're told it's the corporations/rich people's fault. Americans are BY FAR the heaviest consumers in the world and we have all the excuses in the world for why we think it's okay.
Granted, some of the energy intensive manufacturing was outsourced to China and other places, but then again there's also an increase in efficiency standards (e.g. vehicles, heating etc).
CO2 emissions per capita in Western countries (including the US) have peaked in the 1970s and are now roughly on pre-WW2 levels [2].
(note that I'm onboard with reducing waste etc, but the claim that consumption drives energy use is somewhat misleading)
[1] https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/per-capita-energy-use?tab...
[2] https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co-emissions-per-capita
I was excited for using mini-reactors in coal plants but then when I realized that former coal plants are too radioactive to safely operate a nuclear plant without extensive cleanup was when I realized nuclear was a dead end.
Nuclear container ships though.
PeterHolzwarth•14h ago
loudmax•9h ago
First, the power source is orthogonal to AI. Datacenters will run just as well on nuclear, or coal, or wind and solar. And the electricity generated from nuclear could be used to run datacenters, or power electric cars, or replace decommissioned coal plants. In this context, the AI stuff is just confusing matters.
Second, this administration is about the last people I'd want involved in assessing or enforcing precautions around nuclear safety.