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The Faust Baseline as a Filtering Layer

https://www.intelligent-people.org/2025/12/13/the-faust-baseline-as-a-filtering-layer/
1•micvicfaust9•26s ago•0 comments

Error-Handling and Locality

https://www.natemeyvis.com/error-handling-and-locality/
1•Theaetetus•43s ago•0 comments

Petition for David Sacks to Self-Deport

https://form.jotform.com/253464131055147
1•resters•52s ago•0 comments

Get found where people search today

https://kleonotus.com/
1•makenotesfast•3m ago•1 comments

Show HN: An early-warning system for SaaS churn (not another dashboard)

https://firstdistro.com
1•Jide_Lambo•3m ago•0 comments

Tell HN: Musk has never *tweeted* a guess for real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto

1•tokenmemory•4m ago•0 comments

A Practical Approach to Verifying Code at Scale

https://alignment.openai.com/scaling-code-verification/
1•gmays•6m ago•0 comments

Show HN: macOS tool to restore window layouts

https://github.com/zembutsu/tsubame
1•zembutsu•8m ago•0 comments

30 Years of <Br> Tags

https://www.artmann.co/articles/30-years-of-br-tags
1•FragrantRiver•15m ago•0 comments

Kyoto

https://github.com/stevepeak/kyoto
2•handfuloflight•16m ago•0 comments

Decision Support System for Wind Farm Maintenance Using Robotic Agents

https://www.mdpi.com/2571-5577/8/6/190
1•PaulHoule•16m ago•0 comments

Show HN: X-AnyLabeling – An open-source multimodal annotation ecosystem for CV

https://github.com/CVHub520/X-AnyLabeling
1•CVHub520•19m ago•0 comments

Penpot Docker Extension

https://www.ajeetraina.com/introducing-the-penpot-docker-extension-one-click-deployment-for-self-...
1•rainasajeet•20m ago•0 comments

Company Thinks It Can Power AI Data Centers with Supersonic Jet Engines

https://www.extremetech.com/science/this-company-thinks-it-can-power-ai-data-centers-with-superso...
1•vanburen•23m ago•0 comments

If AIs can feel pain, what is our responsibility towards them?

https://aeon.co/essays/if-ais-can-feel-pain-what-is-our-responsibility-towards-them
3•rwmj•27m ago•5 comments

Elon Musk's xAI Sues Apple and OpenAI over App Store Drama

https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-xai-lawsuit-apple-openai
1•paulatreides•30m ago•1 comments

Ask HN: Build it yourself SWE blogs?

1•bawis•30m ago•1 comments

Original Apollo 11 Guidance Computer source code

https://github.com/chrislgarry/Apollo-11
3•Fiveplus•36m ago•0 comments

How Did the CIA Lose Nuclear Device?

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/12/13/world/asia/cia-nuclear-device-himalayas-nanda-devi...
1•Wonnk13•36m ago•0 comments

Is vibe coding the new gateway to technical debt?

https://www.infoworld.com/article/4098925/is-vibe-coding-the-new-gateway-to-technical-debt.html
1•birdculture•40m ago•1 comments

Why Rust for Embedded Systems? (and Why I'm Teaching Robotics with It)

https://blog.ravven.dev/blog/why-rust-for-embedded-systems/
2•aeyonblack•42m ago•0 comments

EU: Protecting children without the privacy nightmare of Digital IDs

https://democrats.eu/en/protecting-minors-online-without-violating-privacy-is-possible/
3•valkrieco•42m ago•0 comments

Using E2E Tests as Documentation

https://www.vaslabs.io/post/using-e2e-tests-as-documentation
1•lihaoyi•43m ago•0 comments

Apple Welcome Screen: iWeb

https://www.apple.com/welcomescreen/ilife/iweb-3/
1•hackerbeat•44m ago•1 comments

Accessible Perceptual Contrast Algorithm (APCA) in a Nutshell

https://git.apcacontrast.com/documentation/APCA_in_a_Nutshell.html
1•Kerrick•45m ago•0 comments

AI agent finds more security flaws than human hackers at Stanford

https://scienceclock.com/ai-agent-beats-human-hackers-in-stanford-cybersecurity-experiment/
3•ashishgupta2209•46m ago•2 comments

Nano banana prompts, updates everyday

https://github.com/fionalee1412/bestnanobananaprompt-github
4•AI_kid1412•50m ago•0 comments

Skills vs. Dynamic MCP Loadouts

https://lucumr.pocoo.org/2025/12/13/skills-vs-mcp/
3•cube2222•54m ago•0 comments

Top validated AI-SaaS Ideas are available here

1•peterbricks•58m ago•0 comments

UnmaskIP: A Clean, Ad-Free IP and Deep Packet Leak Checker

https://unmaskip.net
1•kfwkwefwef•1h ago•0 comments
Open in hackernews

Bots are overwhelming websites with their hunger for AI data

https://www.theregister.com/2025/06/17/bot_overwhelming_websites_report/
31•Bender•5mo ago

Comments

tartoran•5mo ago
RIP internet. It will soon make no sense to share something with the world unless you're in for profit. But who's gonna pay for it?
superkuh•5mo ago
While catchy that headline kind of misses the point. It should be "Corporations are overwhelming websites with their hunger for AI data". They're the ones doing it and corporations are by far the most damaging non-human persons (especially since they are formed nowadays to abstract away liability for the damage they cause).

This is not some new enemy "bots". This is the same old non-human legal persons that polluted our physical world repeating things in the digital. Bots run by actual human persons are not the problem.

Analemma_•5mo ago
I'm not sure that's true. As hardware gets cheaper, you're going to see more and more people wanting to build+deploy their own personal LLMs to avoid the guardrails/censorship (or just the cost) of the commercial ones, and that means scraping the internet themselves. I suspect the amount of scraping that's coming from individuals or small projects is going to increase dramatically in the months/years to come.
johnea•5mo ago
This is an ever growing problem.

The model of the web host paying for all bandwidth was somewhat aligned with traditional usage models, but the wave of scrapping for training data is disrupting this logic.

I remember reading, about 10 years ago?, of how backend website communications (ads and demographic data sharing) had surpassed the bandwidth consumed by actual users. But even in this case, the traffic was still primarily linked to the website hosts.

Whereas with the recent scrapping frenzy the traffic is purely client side, and not initiated by actual website users, and not particularly beneficial to the website host.

One has to wonder what percentage of web traffic now is generated by actual users, versus host backend data sharing, and the mammoth new wave of scrapping.

CSMastermind•5mo ago
What's the solution here? Metered usage based on network traffic that gets shared with the website owners?

Otherwise everything moves behind a paywall?

Analemma_•5mo ago
For now the solution is proof-of-work systems like Anubis combined with cookie-based rate limiting: you get throttled if your session cookie indicates you scraped here before, and if you throw the cookie out you get the POW challenge again. I don't know how long this will continue to work, but for my site at least it seems to be holding back the deluge, for the moment.
the_snooze•5mo ago
>Otherwise everything moves behind a paywall?

Basically. Paywalls and private services. Do things that are anti-scale, because things meant for consumption at scale will inevitably draw parasites.

rglover•5mo ago
> Some of the bots identify themselves, but some don't. Either way, the respondents say that robots.txt directives – voluntary behavior guidelines that web publishers post for web crawlers – are not currently effective at controlling bot swarms.

Is anybody tracking the IP ranges of bots or anything similar that's reliable?

It seems like they're taking the "what are you gonna do about it" approach to this.

Edit: Yes [1]

[1] https://github.com/FabrizioCafolla/openai-crawlers-ip-ranges

dbmikus•5mo ago
Many bots use residential IP proxy networks, so they come from the same IPs that humans use
renegat0x0•5mo ago
I think that some of big tech already said that they don't respect robots in what is prohibited. It is highly probable that ordinary bots also does not respect robots.txt.
zimpenfish•5mo ago
GPTBot certainly doesn't - I added a blanket disallow for it several months ago and in the last 5 days, it's done 22k requests (rate-limited to a max of 5 req/minute, all proxied to iocaine[0].)

[0] https://iocaine.madhouse-project.org

josefritzishere•5mo ago
I think the solution is criminal penalties.
esseph•5mo ago
Good luck tracking them down
darekkay•5mo ago
ai.robots.txt contains a big list of AI crawlers to block, either through robots.txt or via server rules:

https://github.com/ai-robots-txt/ai.robots.tx

Bender•5mo ago
Your link is missing the t at the end of .txt. You should be able to edit it though.
JimDabell•5mo ago
This actually blocks a lot more than just AI crawlers. You shouldn’t use this without reviewing it in detail so that you understand what you are actually blocking.

For instance, it includes ChatGPT-User. This is not a crawler. This is used when a ChatGPT user pastes a link in and asks ChatGPT about the contents of the page.

One of the entries is facebookexternalhit. When you share a link on Facebook, Threads, WhatsApp, etc., this is the user-agent Meta uses to fetch the OpenGraph metadata to display things like the title and thumbnail.

Skimming through the list, I see a bunch of things like this. Not every non-browser fetch is an AI crawler!

millipede•5mo ago
Information is valuable; we just weren't charging for it. AI is just bringing the market for knowledge back into equilibrium.
dehrmann•5mo ago
It looks more like information is valuable in aggregate.
rickydroll•5mo ago
That's a point that's often overlooked. I suspect many of the "amazing insights." LLM events only happen because training sets encompass an extensive range of knowledge and can arrive at conclusions previously unseen.

One could reasonably claim that the value of AI systems and very large training sets is not that it is an approach to AGI, but that it makes finding previously unseen connections possible.

gnabgib•5mo ago
Original source: https://www.glamelab.org/products/are-ai-bots-knocking-cultu... (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44298771)
pleeb•5mo ago
I run a fairly large forum, and I've been getting emails from linode That the CPU usage has been going over 90% multiple times a day, Yours have been complaining that the site has been taking up to five or six seconds to load. I checked the log, and I would keep getting hit with hundreds of connections and second from specific addresses, So I set up rate limiting with Cloudflare.

I thought everything was going well after that, until suddenly it started getting even worse. I started realizing that instead of one IP hitting the site a hundred times per second, it was now hundreds of IP's hitting the site Slightly below the Throttling threshold I had set up.

dehrmann•5mo ago
Can you serve cached data to logged-out users?
dehrmann•5mo ago
Who's doing this at such a high volume? Most of the data is static enough that there isn't value in frequent crawls, crawls are (probably) more expensive than caching, and small shops and hobbyists don't have the resources to move the needle.
chneu•5mo ago
I think it was wikipedia recently that was pissed because bots were crawling the site instead of using the already available datasets.

AI bots don't care about caches. That's one of the big issues

renegat0x0•5mo ago
The additional bad outcome is that all content can go behind logins, and paywalls. What then? You will have to provide data, email in every corner of the web to lo in.

There are also good crawlers that search for sites, like Google, or marginalia which gives your page recognizibility. If you lock everything from the web, we'll it disappears from the web.

cryptonector•5mo ago
This is going to drive all blogs to GitHub gists and such.