frontpage.
newsnewestaskshowjobs

Made with ♥ by @iamnishanth

Open Source @Github

Open in hackernews

Telegram founder Durov says his 100 children will receive share of his estate

https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/20/tech/durov-100-children-inheritance-scli-intl
27•myth_drannon•4h ago

Comments

miga•3h ago
100 children? Looks like Elon is less fertile...
Onawa•2h ago
Only 6 of the children were conceived naturally. The rest were from sperm donations. Interesting that he claims that there isn't a difference for him though in how he views his offspring.
walterbell•2h ago
Reportedly he will "open-source" his DNA data to establish paternity for legal claim by each child.
myth_drannon•1h ago
Which is silly, anyone can buy DNA test kit for 50$ and then download the result file and upload to the miriad DNA sites out there like gedmatch, myheritage so you can be easily found. That's how the families of my relative who donated sperm (anonymously) found me and now trying to figure out who the donor is and are contacting me.
wood_spirit•1h ago
I guess he means he will publish his dna.

Then, all who can match that they are his children can claim.

Balgair•4m ago
Ahhh, no, not in France.

From what I can tell (which isn't much) Durov is living in France and seems to like it there. I'm not going to assume the people that are a product of his sperm donations are all living in France, but I will assume some are.

In France paternity tests are legal, but they are highly regulated and require a court order to preform at a very small number of labs that can do it. This goes back to 1994. Even going outside that system and gaining a paternity test in another country is illegal and risks a year in prison and a 15,000 Euro fine. Not that it stops questioning husbands, but hey.

Havoc•2h ago
>He said a doctor told him that it was his “civic duty” to donate his “high quality donor material,”

How very soviet of him

seydor•1h ago
sperm-donated children are not "his children" , they are somebody else's children now . he didn't even say so himself, the title added it
demosthanos•1h ago
> “They are all my children and will all have the same rights! I don’t want them to tear each other apart after my death,” he said, after revealing that he recently wrote his will.

I agree that it's pretty cringe to refer to all of them as his children when he's literally a sperm donor, but he definitely did call them that.

mumbisChungo•1h ago
They're also literally his children.
demosthanos•1h ago
That depends a lot on your definition of "children" and "father".

Many people with uninvolved biological fathers would disagree with you that the guy who impregnated their mother counted as their father, especially if they were raised by another man who actually did stick around, and that's even for dads who actually impregnated the mother. Sperm donation takes this even further because he claims to have actually done it anonymously [0], meaning he's as uninvolved as he possibly could have been in the process of being a father.

Many or most of these kids have real men who were actually there helping to raise them through their childhood who they refer to as "father", and it's pretty disrespectful of Durov towards those men to attempt to usurp that title on the grounds of what was supposed to be an anonymous donation.

I'll grant that Durov is more likely than most sperm donors to have some of these kids actually claim him as their father, but that's in no small part because there's now a substantial amount of money tied to them identifying him as such. Cynically I wonder if that's a major motivator for him doing this, because he knows that the kids wouldn't otherwise know or care who he is.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44328289

sheepolog•46m ago
What term would you prefer he use? "Offspring"? "Biological children"? I agree that he is in no way a father in the same sense as others who have actually helped raise children, but I also don't think he's claiming to be, and his phrasing makes sense to me. He is literally their father (in the most uninvolved way possible), and they are literally his children.
demosthanos•40m ago
My main point in the last comment is that inserting himself into their lives at all is disrespectful. He doesn't need a word for them because he has no relationship to them: he was an anonymous donor to enable their actual parents to have kids that they wouldn't have otherwise been able to have.
bpodgursky•48m ago
To be fair there's not really a good word standardized for what you're describing ("biological progeny without parental relationship"). People are going to use shorthand if they don't have a good term.
r721•1h ago
Original source: https://www.lepoint.fr/high-tech-internet/exclusive-pavel-du...
walterbell•1h ago
https://gizmodo.com/telegrams-founder-plans-to-open-source-h...

> fifteen years ago, a friend asked him to donate sperm at a clinic to help them because they were having trouble conceiving.. "The boss of the clinic told me that ‘high quality donor material’ was in short supply and that it was my civic duty to donate more sperm to anonymously help more couples.. I plan to open-source my DNA so that my biological children can find each other more easily.. The shortage of healthy sperm has become an increasingly serious issue worldwide, and I’m proud that I did my part to help alleviate it."

ryandvm•1h ago
Why are tech bros so... weird?
Henchman21•1h ago
Because they see human interaction as a problem to be solved.
foobarian•1h ago
I don't know about weird, seems like a perfectly natural instinct. See e.g. Genghis Khan
1024core•1h ago
Only 100 children? Pfffft... amateur! Real pros are nearing 1000: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65429936
emsign•1h ago
Oh, so he is one of those who want a legion of Mars children to prevent apocalypse. Why are rich people so weird?

He better makes all 100 aware of each other for a much simpler reason: incest prevention. Even though the chance being slim, it is possible.

A dutch man was sentenced to not donate any more sperm because one company illegally used his to fertilize dozens of eggs resultingin statistically problematic number of children from one individual.

So listen techbros, this is not how you "safe" humanity.

Quarrelsome•1h ago
> Why are rich people so weird?

Eminem hinted at the answer. During the peak of his fame he was at a restaurant with his crew and having a great time and he was making jokes and everyone was laughing and then in a flash of clarity he realised:

> of course they're laughing, every single one of these people are on my payroll.

Riches have an incredibly distorting effect, especially once you cross the threshold of becoming a target. At that point you _need_ security, you _need_ to move to a gated community and you can no longer lead a normal life. The only other people you can meet who aren't trying to get into your wallet are other rich people and they're as insane as you are. You also have "fuck you" money so being nice, having other people like you isn't necessary any more. You no longer have a limiter. It gives people the opportunity to be more monstrous and I worry that much monstrosity lies dormant within us all, simply waiting for its opportunity.

IMHO Hoardcurse only has two cures: put yourself at risk by forcing yourself to interact with normal people who don't owe you anything and don't know how rich you are, or give-away/spend your assets and become normally poor again, which ofc nobody ever does.

andai•1h ago
If I'm reading this right, you're implying the only thing keeping people decent is that they have to pretend to be decent for survival purposes?

Based on my framework that means the moral tragedy occurred long before the wealth and fame.

Quarrelsome•59m ago
Not entirely, its more a worry than an assertion, humanity's greatest strength is that it isn't a monolith so I'd figure YMMV. Its just when the jeering crowd point and shame others for being reprehensible, part of me wonders if all that crowd would pass that vibe-check if they'd been presented with that same opportunity. Is it morality, or is it just opportunity? Idk but I think its hard to prove either way.

So, true wealth removes the limiters and the consequences that might keep some people in check. It's like how, for all the horrors that religion foisted upon us over the centuries, one of the good things it did was to encourage a general populace to attempt to better people using the threat of hell and encouraging an acknowledgement of sin.

karmakurtisaani•11m ago
There's also some selection bias going on: in order to become obscenely wealthy, you probably need to lack some empathy and decency to beging with. Once you get there, these qualities can then flourish unhinged.
Quarrelsome•1m ago
perhaps, some people luck into money though. The idea helps explain some people who seemed quite decent before they gained their wealth and status.
noelwelsh•58m ago
It's fame more than riches that does this. You can be as rich as you like, but if you stay out of the news and don't splash cash no-one will ever know. I know someone like this. The live an upper middle class life (nice house, etc.) but could easily afford a lot more. They don't want all the bullshit that entails.
option•1h ago
So over 100 people who never knew him are set to get over 100M dollars upon his death. What could possibly go wrong?
qualeed•1h ago
What do you mean? What would go wrong and how is it relevant whether they met him or not?

I wish someone gave me $100MM, that'd be great, even if I didn't know them.

wood_spirit•1h ago
doesn’t this mean that 100 people and those can benefit indirectly from those 100 people all now have a big financial incentive to hurry his demise?
jboydyhacker•1h ago
once they all turn 30- he's a dead man.
re-thc•1h ago
Depends if he will still increase his wealth.
madduci•1h ago
> I decided that my children would not have access to my fortune until a period of 30 years has elapsed, starting from today. I want them to live like normal people, to build themselves up alone, to learn to trust themselves, to be able to create, not to be dependent on a bank account

I believe he doesn't even spend time with them at all, or even know their names

qualeed•1h ago
Why would he? He donated his sperm. Presumably the children are growing up with their own families.

It's not very typical for a sperm donor to be involved, or even be aware of, the kids born from the donation.

Data's Magic Carpet Ride

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWW42akmw8w
1•squircle•49s ago•0 comments

Hey aliens, here's our new album. How to follow up a record hurtling in space?

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2025/jun/20/aliens-new-album-golden-record-space-voyager-chuck-berry
1•markx2•1m ago•0 comments

News articles about 16B passwords leak going viral

https://appleinsider.com/articles/25/06/18/16-billion-logins-discovered-across-exposed-datasets-but-dont-panic
1•TZubiri•2m ago•0 comments

Who cares about developer productivity anyway?

https://keystonebit.com/posts/developer-productivity
1•gatinsama•4m ago•0 comments

Russian Hackers Bypass Gmail MFA with App-Specific Password Ruse

https://www.securityweek.com/russian-hackers-bypass-gmail-mfa-with-app-specific-password-ruse/
1•Bender•8m ago•0 comments

Godfather Android Trojan Creates Sandbox on Infected Devices

https://www.securityweek.com/godfather-android-trojan-creates-sandbox-on-infected-devices/
1•Bender•9m ago•0 comments

Show HN: I Built a Rust Docs MCP Server for Agents

https://github.com/snowmead/rust-docs-mcp
1•snowmead•9m ago•0 comments

FreeType Zero-Day Found by Meta Exploited in Paragon Spyware Attacks

https://www.securityweek.com/freetype-zero-day-found-by-meta-exploited-in-paragon-spyware-attacks/
1•Bender•9m ago•0 comments

'catastrophic risk to humanity': New York is pushing back against AI

https://www.dazeddigital.com/life-culture/article/67027/1/catastrophic-risk-humanity-new-york-artificial-intelligence-raise-act-bill
3•Bluestein•13m ago•0 comments

JSFireTruck: Exploring Malicious JavaScript Using JSFuck Obfuscation Technique

https://unit42.paloaltonetworks.com/malicious-javascript-using-jsfiretruck-as-obfuscation/
1•dskrvk•14m ago•0 comments

Marijuana's Links to Heart Attack and Stroke Are Becoming Clearer

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/19/well/marijuana-heart-health-risks.html
1•mikhael•16m ago•0 comments

Assisted dying set to become law in England and Wales after bill passed by MPs

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jun/20/assisted-dying-law-england-and-wales-bill-passed
1•tomduncalf•17m ago•0 comments

How to Hire a Back End Developer as an Executive

https://www.technology.org/2025/06/20/how-to-hire-a-backend-developer-as-an-executive/
1•Aninay•17m ago•0 comments

Show HN: An SDK for building custom coding agents with tools and sub-agents

1•chw9e•21m ago•0 comments

Godfather of AI has a new plan to keep us safe from it

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/417087/ai-safety-yoshua-bengio-lawzero
2•tux1968•22m ago•0 comments

A continental scale analysis reveals widespread root bimodality

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-025-60055-2
4•Bluestein•24m ago•0 comments

Gulaschprogrammiernacht 23

https://media.ccc.de/c/gpn23
1•todsacerdoti•24m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Pickaxe – a TypeScript library for building AI agents

https://github.com/hatchet-dev/pickaxe
2•abelanger•25m ago•3 comments

Show HN: Lin – CLI tool that uses LLMs to automate/manage internationalization

https://github.com/yuo-app/lin
1•Rettend•26m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: What do you think about app native vs. portable look-and-feel?

2•ttd•27m ago•0 comments

The 16B credentials leak is not a new data breach

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/no-the-16-billion-credentials-leak-is-not-a-new-data-breach/
2•speckx•27m ago•0 comments

To avoid admitting ignorance, Meta AI says man's number is a company helpline

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/06/to-avoid-admitting-ignorance-meta-ai-says-mans-number-is-a-company-helpline/
3•gametorch•28m ago•4 comments

Men, where have you gone? Please come back

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/20/style/modern-love-men-where-have-you-gone-please-come-back.html
3•012673•29m ago•0 comments

Brain physically changes when you work too much, scientists warn

https://www.aol.com/news/brain-physically-changes-too-much-090005921.html
1•Bluestein•31m ago•0 comments

Apple Must Buy Perplexity

https://www.bigtechnology.com/p/why-apple-must-buy-perplexity
4•kantrowitz•32m ago•2 comments

Show HN: Python-based background agents for software dev

https://github.com/cairn-dev/cairn
1•brich4419•32m ago•0 comments

Accumulation of Cognitive Capital When Using an AI to Reflect on Essay Writings

https://cogilo.me/blog/cogilo/
5•lukasego•33m ago•0 comments

How to Build the Perfect City

https://walkingtheworld.substack.com/p/how-to-build-the-perfect-city
1•Michelangelo11•33m ago•0 comments

Rise and Fall Of The J. Peterman Company (1999)

https://hbr.org/1999/09/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-j-peterman-company
1•no_wizard•33m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: Is Emailing Journalists Useless?

1•Tanishmittal•33m ago•0 comments