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Wait, Why Is Israel Allowed to Have Nukes?

https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/wait-why-is-israel-allowed-to-have-nukes
97•shinryudbz•7mo ago

Comments

Qem•7mo ago
Archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20250621153024/https://www.curre...

Related: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_affair

ranger_danger•7mo ago
Because they are allies... at least, that's probably their justification.
Qem•7mo ago
Iran was also an ally... until 1979. Saddam was another ally... until 1990, et cetera.
ranger_danger•7mo ago
Not saying you're wrong, but were the reasons for those alliances failing, because of nukes?
cultofmetatron•7mo ago
AIPAC
mullingitover•7mo ago
I'd actually feel safer if Iran just got it over with and developed/tested their own nuclear weapons. Then SA would get theirs, along with Egypt and Turkey, and all this low-grade (and brutal, primarily to civilians) nonstop warfare in the middle east would come grinding to a halt as everyone is forced to treat their neighbors with respect.
stogot•7mo ago
That’s a strange take. Pakistan and India are both nukes and continue to have border wars. Israel has nukes and has had a perpetual war. The UK and Egypt had conflict when UK has had nukes. China had battles with Vietnam, Laos, and the Soviet Union. It’s amazing the restraint these nations have shown. Adding more nations to the pot adds more risk, especially when in the hands of unstable, immature, and emotionally irrational leaders. Russia and NK are threatening nuclear attacks annually. Let’s pray it never comes to that
mullingitover•7mo ago
You’re illustrating my point.

Of all the conflicts you listed, only India and Pakistan are at nuclear parity, and their body count in all their conflicts is a rounding error compared to the others.

stogot•7mo ago
You’re forgetting that the US and Soviets /Russians fought multiple proxy wars with high body counts, even most recently in Syria. It doesn’t have to be direct confrontation
ffsm8•7mo ago
You actually want a theocracy whose religion considers non-muslims to go sub-humam to have nukes and would even feel safer?

The only thing that would make this constant war stop would be to cut all nations participating in these wars entirely off from the modern world. Revoke any travel permits, and stop any and all goods traveling to/from their borders, including to any nations ignoring such a ban.

The only reason why that's not am option is because of the vested interests of billionaires which procure oil from that area

But if we did, that would actually stop the wars, within a very short period of time. It just can't be done passively like with NK, because China likes to ignore such initiatives

cultofmetatron•7mo ago
> theocracy whose religion considers non-muslims to go sub-humam to have nukes and would even feel safer?

we already support and BACK a theocracy, that considers (palestinian) non jews to be subhuman , to have nukes. You can argue all you want about Israel being a theocracy but their constitution mandates a jewish state. Your religion is on your passport and strongly impacts your quality of life when you're in the regime.

ffsm8•7mo ago
You seem to be confused about the definition of the word theocracy if you unironically consider Israel one. No, you don't seem to be - you unquestionably are considering how you argued the point.

theocracy /θɪˈɒkrəsi/ noun

    a system of government in which priests rule in the name of God or a god.
cultofmetatron•7mo ago
you're absolutely correct. it would be more accurate to call Israel an ethnosupremacist state. For all intents and purposes, I consider the alternative terminology a reasonable substitute when looking at outcomes.
weatherlite•7mo ago
Even if what you're saying is true (theocracy, subhuman etc etc), the reality is we have almost 60 years of experience saying Israel isn't irresponsible with nukes. We can't say that about any of the other countries in the region like Iran, Turkey, Syria, Yemen etc etc. It would be one giant experiment to have everyone armed with nukes.
cultofmetatron•7mo ago
> We can't say that about any of the other countries in the region like Iran, Turkey, Syria, Yemen etc etc.

Can we for a second, step back and acknowledge who CAUSED the instability in those countries? Iran, off the top of my head, had a secular democratic government until the CIA orchestrated a coup.

Meanwhile, I certainly don't trust a country with nukes that has single handedly spearheaded a genocide that has resulted in the death of over 20 thousand children. Its literally a magnitude order more deaths per year than any other armed conflict. If you want to argue that religious zelots should not be trusted with nukes, I fully agree with you. but lets apply that logic to all countries. not just the ones that "ally" with us.

yencabulator•7mo ago
Down that road is applying the logic to USA itself... so Americans fundamentally cannot peer into that abyss.
anonnon•7mo ago
The US and Russia up until recently were committed to nuclear disarmament. Reagan even pledged to work towards "a world free of nuclear weapons," a goal that many on both sides of the political spectrum shared. Bizarrely, now I see plenty of leftists (tankies specifically) not just resigned to a world beset by nuclear proliferation, but even enthusiastic about it.
weatherlite•7mo ago
> step back and acknowledge who CAUSED the instability in those countries

Even if what you're saying is true, which is a reach imo, that's still not really a good justification to be pro nuclear proliferation in the Middle East.

bell-cot•7mo ago
Answered in the first 5 words of the subtitle:

> According to our elected leaders, we should be very scared of the possibility that Iran could get a nuclear bomb. But Israel already has them, and ...

For the past 80 years, it's been all-but-guaranteed that you won't win an American election if you seem insufficiently pro-Israel.

Yes, there are plenty of objective arguments for America's foreign policy being far less pro-Israel than it has been for 8+ decades. US Sec. of State (and former US Army General) George Marshall made those arguments to US President Harry Truman back in 1948 - and was overruled. Truman had staked out a pro-Israel position before his previous election (which he had won), then won another election 6 months after overruling Marshall.

- If your real priority is sounding sophisticated, you can make fancy arguments about America being far too pro-Israel.

- If your real priority is understanding why America is so pro-Israel, then you need to shut up with the fancy arguments, and analyze the American electorate's strong preference for that.

- And if your real priority is winning American elections, then you need to present as "obviously" pro-Israel. And ignore the idiots making fancy arguments.

BrandoElFollito•7mo ago
Could you elaborate on the reasons for this pro Israel preference?

I thought that it was mostly because Israel is backed by evangelists who have a large electorate + lobby from the people with Jewish roots or faith.

yencabulator•7mo ago
> analyze the American electorate's strong preference

Electorate or lobbyist and entrenched power? Losing funding is a way to lose votes, but doesn't imply anything about voter preference.

jfengel•7mo ago
Arguably, the last Presidential election was lost because the candidate was insufficiently anti-Israel. I heard a number of people claim that the incumbent's support for Israel during the Gaza conflict was sufficient to reject his hand-picked successor.

It's impossible to know for sure, of course. I do not trust people's claims about their reasons. If she had somehow taken a position that would attract their votes, I can't know how many votes that position would have lost.

Nonetheless... AIPAC didn't make an endorsement in the last election. I don't think that she could have taken an even-more-pro-Israel position and gotten their endorsement. So it may well be that the only path forward is to hope that the anti-Israel crowd would vote if they were pandered to.

(I'll note that I don't believe that they will. I am quite certain they will find some other reason not to vote. But options are becoming thin on the ground.)

andrewinardeer•7mo ago
Why is North Korea?
gmuslera•7mo ago
The elephants in the room are always hard to spot.
cpill•7mo ago
I don't know what the point of nukes are anymore. They will never be used. You'd figure giving Ukraine long range missiles would provoke Russia into using theirs, but they haven't. What would it take other than another nuclear strike to cause Russia or anyone with nukes to actually use them?

Separately, if Israel nukes Iran, will we be OK with it? Is there anything Israel can do that would make us say "Stop"?

IAmBroom•7mo ago
"Never" is a ridiculous thing to say.
anonnon•7mo ago
> They will never be used

The more countries that have them, and the more nuclear weapons over all, the greater the likelihood they'll be used, even if only by accident.

tim333•7mo ago
I'm not sure there was ever a nuke permitting board deciding which countries are allowed nukes. I mean Russia and N Korea having them isn't ideal. It's just some countries got hold of them and some the west tries to stop getting them for strategic reasons.
incomingpain•7mo ago
While it's generally estimated that Israel has nukes, there's actually no evidence that they do. They've never tested one and you're never going to hold something in your pocket for defense that's untested.

1998 India/Pakistan was a rough year; but every nuclear power has tested their bombs to make sure they work.

There are detection systems that were able to detect sub kiloton explosions in NK from across the world; with triangulation that's quite precise. We would know if Israel has tested.

If they havent tested, they really dont have anything.

Now lets assume they do in fact have some; perhaps smuggled or sourced plans from some other nuclear power.

Why are they allowed to? Well what are you going to do about it? They'll nuke you to keep them.

StochasticLi•7mo ago
I guess it's the same reason why the genocide is allowed.
neurostimulant•7mo ago
> They've never tested one and you're never going to hold something in your pocket for defense that's untested.

Vela Incident: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vela_incident

tguvot•7mo ago
there is a list of 6 possible countries there
neurostimulant•7mo ago
With Israel as the most likely country that did the test with SA permission. It's very unlikely that the Soviet, Pakistan, India or France to do nuclear test there.
tguvot•7mo ago
"most likely" is very bad evidence.
neurostimulant•7mo ago
Just read the wiki entry man, it lists plenty of evidence that Israel did it. It's just Israel and SA wouldn't confirm it officially.
tguvot•7mo ago
articles lists a lot of "conclusions made by people" and no evidence
IAmBroom•7mo ago
> While it's generally estimated that Israel has nukes, there's actually no evidence that they do. They've never tested one and you're never going to hold something in your pocket for defense that's untested.

That's one take.

It's really hard to say what the US has allowed as regards Israel. Locals near a particular nuclear facility can recall an Israeli "team of scientists" mysteriously visiting the facility, a year or so before Israel declared themselves a nuclear power. The assumption is that they "snuck" material out, while US officials were "distracted" - by prior agreement.

I believe the US nuclear-armed Israel directly.

incomingpain•7mo ago
>It's really hard to say what the US has allowed as regards Israel. Locals near a particular nuclear facility can recall an Israeli "team of scientists" mysteriously visiting the facility, a year or so before Israel declared themselves a nuclear power. The assumption is that they "snuck" material out, while US officials were "distracted" - by prior agreement.

Israel has never declared themselves a nuclear power. They literally have a hebrew word for their refusal to answer questions on the matter.

That's also a very very suspicious story that anonymous locals near an anonymous nuclear facility that supposedly knew about a top secret team of israel scientists...

>I believe the US nuclear-armed Israel directly.

I doubt.

tguvot•7mo ago
facility is in the middle of the desert, in the middle of the nothing 8 miles from "locals"

not sure how locals can see "team of scientists" visiting it

hackeraccount•7mo ago
I think the deal is that any country is allowed to have nukes or give up having nukes. No country without nukes is allowed to get nukes - unless they already have them of course.
afroboy•7mo ago
Well it considered the 51 state, it's an extension to USA. Every horrible thing done by them is just what USA want and not the other way around.

Strong country can pose any rules what ever they like this is history repeating it self, The US regime has it's racist roots and colonialism run in their blood, seeing millions of Muslims getting killed is what make them happy.

They allow themselves to have the best weapons but not for the people they kill so they can't retaliate this the real answer here.

I always prey for the day that Rome will fall.