By now, the FBI should know better than to underestimate the cartels.
RRWagner•7mo ago
The most important take-away of the story is that if the government has the power to gather all available data of people, sooner or later the same information will be in the hands of criminals targeting those same people.
OutOfHere•7mo ago
Furthermore, the government is complicit in the intentional insecurity of the phone networks, protocols, and operating systems.
Arubis•7mo ago
And oftentimes the government and the criminals will be the same people—if not at the beginning then by convergence.
pkkkzip•7mo ago
also a demonstration of resources of the state vs those of a cartel
quite good and poses significant challenge to the state
vkou•7mo ago
And sometimes, the government becomes the criminals and everyone discovers that it's really difficult to get them to hold themselves accountable.
firefax•7mo ago
I'm surprised how few people don't put their phone in airplane mode when not actively making a call.
NewJazz•7mo ago
Ummm... You don't want to receive calls and texts?
firefax•7mo ago
>Ummm... You don't want to receive calls and texts?
not really
echoangle•7mo ago
But how can you be surprised that other people don't do this if you expect to be able to call them? If you are able to call them, they have to have their phone not in airplane mode, right? Or do you only do scheduled calls?
firefax•7mo ago
I check the voicemail and return the call when I am making calls.
NewJazz•7mo ago
How do you know when to check your voicemail?
firefax•7mo ago
When I feel like it.
DougN7•7mo ago
So basically your system only works for you, because if all those people you might call did the same thing, the chances of you both checking your phones and trying to call at the same time are very low.
gavinray•7mo ago
>Doesn't want to receive calls or texts
>Owns a phone
gausswho•7mo ago
> Doesn't mind when normies quaintly describe their pocket supercomputer as a 'phone'
fc417fc802•7mo ago
It's a mobile network terminal and camera that I occasionally use to place calls to businesses, after all. The business can leave a voicemail if they need to reach me. My family and friends can send written messages. I don't see the issue.
frereubu•7mo ago
Sounds like my mum.
more_corn•7mo ago
My phone is many other things. I’ve often considered creating a handheld computer with no phone capabilities.
more_corn•7mo ago
Samzies
cschep•7mo ago
Your surprise at this makes you an extreme outlier.
gausswho•7mo ago
I do this at home to avoid needlessly hunting for towers that are barely in range. But I am concerned that if I don't leave the house for a few days the carrier (Google Fi / TMobile) may be discarding messages. I've heard mixed opinions on if this is happening. But I am missing calls even with WiFi calling on.
HumanOstrich•7mo ago
That's not how any of this works.
dc3k•7mo ago
i am pretty confident that at least 99.99% of people dont put their phone in airplane mode when not actively making a call
general1726•7mo ago
You sound like my grandfather when he had a phone. Constantly switched off and only switched it on when he wanted to call somebody and then switched it off. So frustrating how he was incapable of understanding that other people might want to call him too.
richardatlarge•7mo ago