They're fine with the few opt out and degraded service to them, their goal is the vast majority who will say yes.
This is one more good reason to never sign in on your android phone.
It's not as good as using graphene, but it's easier, less work, and you can't brick your phone.
The drawback, of course, is that you can't use your map, youtube or gmail account since signing in in any of those logs in the entire device.
But with microg, fdroid and aurora, it's very practical.
That seems even easier to do and also lets you continue using the actually useful google products.
That will only work until Google makes it impossible to uninstall.
Some engineer probably finally got a little too much mace on a date and had to accept a “no” for once.
> Gemini now has a second set of toggles buried in its settings menu. You can go to Profile → Apps inside the Gemini app and manually disable access to Phone, Messages, WhatsApp, or Utilities. But these are turned on by default, even if you’ve disabled tracking in the past.
I wouldn't even call that exaggerated whatsoever given these circumstances. If you say no, it still has access to them. the headline in no way claims that there is no way to disable access (likely temporarily) - it just says that if you disabled access before, gemini will still get access now.
> But these are turned on by default, even if you’ve disabled tracking in the past.
99% of the user's won't care and will actually find benefit in this sort of thing.
Personally I hate it, the struggle for any sort of privacy just got a lot harder on phones for me. PC/laptop is easy, I use Linux. But for phone I need to either pay for expensive hardware and risk bricking it to install something like grapheneOS or buy cheap and disable all the Google stuff I can.
Changing bank ? Well all other banks have the exact same issue in my country.
But how long will this last? They're constantly pushing for me to download their app.
Also, "terminal"?
In France, banking without a 'trusted' mobile phone is kinda hell.
Even accessing some stuff for the state (they call it 'france connect+) will require a 'real' android.
(ETA:) My banks probably have apps, but I only use them via their websites, even on my phone (in a desperate pinch).
The notification indeed says that even if you turned everything off, they will allow themselves in your messages, especially WhatsApp messages that are not normally part of Google or Android. And even if it looks like that the option to disable that exist, they don't tell you about that in the notification. It looks like that you have no choice.
To be clear, what I mean by that is that they only say: If you don’t want to use these features, you can turn them off in the Apps settings page.
But what it means "in the Apps" settings page? Does it means a settings in each individual app that my prostitute itself to Gemini?and if yes, which exact apps should I go to, to do this manual process that I don't asked for?
Since Google Assistant is going away I think this is an improvement for people who want to keep activity tracking off.
It would also be better if you could create calendar events from the web version of Gemini with activity tracking off so you aren't punished for not letting Google train Gemini on your data imo.
lpcvoid•5h ago
Brought to you by a GrapheneOS fanboy.
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Stiffly6471•4h ago
That the biggest issue right now. Dependency of apps on gsf
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aprilnya•4h ago
https://grapheneos.org/articles/attestation-compatibility-gu...
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attendant3446•44m ago
I would prefer these apps had a standalone web version, but sometimes it's not up to you what apps you have to use :(
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tjpnz•4h ago
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/aug/22/google-cs...