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YouTube: Robotic translation annoys users and cannot be turned off

https://www.heise.de/en/news/YouTube-auto-dubbing-Robotic-translation-annoys-users-and-cannot-be-turned-off-10315551.html
22•doener•5h ago

Comments

superkuh•5h ago
I can understand why it automatically being on and coming back on would be annoying.

But the auto-dub feature itself is amazing. As an english only speaker (with a bit of german) I'm loving that now I can directly listen to Brazillian hot air balloon underground art scene videos in Portuguese, among others. Having the auto-generated subtitles was good, but now with auto-dubs it's even better. These auto-translations features really are bringing the world together in the ways the internet always promised. That's a good thing. I never would've interacted with many of these people if not for the auto translation (both ways).

tsimionescu•5h ago
Dubbing in general is a horrid practice. People's voices and speech mannerisms are a big part of their personality and presence. Hiding it behind someone else's voice (or an auto-generated translation) just erases a huge part of who the other person is, for no good reason in a world where virtually everyone can read subtitles.

Imagine listening to "I'm gonna make him an offer he can't refuse", but instead of Marlon Brandon's iconic performance, you get someone speaking another language, or an AI generated voice: you'd lose half the point of the scene.

superkuh•4h ago
The dubs are not replacing the actual audio track. Both tracks are available if you want the original because you understand that language. You can just pick using the options menu (the gear).

The problem is that people are picking and then youtube is ignoring that on future videos and reloads instead of storing the preference.

The problem is not the availability of the auto-dubs as an option, which are undeniably great and helpful when you don't understand the language. I agree re: entertainment movies, dubs are bad. But sometimes in video media, often in fact, the speech is not about the person emoting but instead about what they are saying (ie, documentaries, reviews, etc).

tsimionescu•3h ago
You can still listen to the original audio and look at subtitles if you don't understand the language. It's so dehumanizing to auto generate a replacement of the original voice. I would really hate to know that I went through the trouble of recording and sharing something for free and people were listening to an AI rendition of what I was saying.
superkuh•2h ago
Yeah. I personally self-host my videos that I send to people on IRC/email/etc. Easy solution if you don't like what a free corporate service is doing. It would be nice if Alphabet's Google's Youtube also offered an option to disable it for one's own account's videos.

But I will never agree that auto-translations are a bad thing. They open the world up beyond language barriers. And that's good. Just because "AI" is involved does not make it bad, even if you're sick of it being shoved down your throat in contexts like Tik-Instagram-whatever.

fao_•5h ago
Want to know what annoys users more than robotic translation? A screen-sized cookie dialogue without the option to reject all, that requires you to go through numerous forms before you can see the website content.

No way am I reading that slop.

Xelbair•5h ago
you know what annoys users more than broken arm? a splinter! (and i fact i do have a splinter in my hand right now).
drdirk•5h ago
In the web version it is unavoidable only in the native app you can change to the original audio.

P.S. I uninstalled the YouTube app because of YouTube Shorts and had to reinstall the app to listen to videos in the original audio.

chii•5h ago
install revanced (if you're on android): https://github.com/ReVanced

it is something that allows you to make your youtube experience much, much nicer (such as removing shorts off the app).

Y_Y•5h ago
I can easily change to original audio in my third-party app. I love using it while smoking my new pipe.
quaintdev•5h ago
If you want to block YouTube shorts just pause your watch history and clear entire history. It turns off all recommendations including shorts. You can subscription tab without any issue
_Algernon_•5h ago
Fuck multilinguals I guess.
Zufriedenheit•5h ago
To make matters worse, on mobile web there is no way of turning this off or switching the audio track at all :(
bombcar•5h ago
I was watching a YouTube (Michael Hendrix) and wanted to cast to my TV, which replaced him with a strange Japanese voice or something.
phlsa•5h ago
There's a Firefox extension (also available for Chrome) that turns off automatic translations and dubbing [1]

Moments like these really make me appreciate the customizability of the web experience for advanced users.

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/youtube-no-tr...

_Algernon_•4h ago
So at this point, to use YT you need:

- Ublock origin. - Sponsorblock. - DeArrow. - Youtube no translation

At what point do we collectively decide to no longer patch over enshittified bullshit?

danillonunes•3h ago
I also use an extension to stop automatically playing a video when I open it and another to stop automatically opening the next recommended video when the current one ends.
lutusp•3h ago
> ... The voice generators used by YouTube sound extremely robotic and are sometimes accelerated to 1.5 times the original speed

This might only apply to German, notorious for requiring more syllables to convey a given idea than, say, French or English.

Nevertheless, it's absurd that YouTube doesn't provide an easier way to disable this "feature".

zihotki•2h ago
I noticed the same with German. And often generators have to wait because some important piece of the sentence has to be at the end in German. It's happening less in Dutch videos
polotics•59m ago
Such typical Google arrogance.
BrandoElFollito•25m ago
I heard that from a small Italian YouTuber who does cooking videos (Tortellino) who apologized yesterday for his video that was transformed without his knowledge and consent.

Apparently his (average) Italian accent, plus simple Italian words (spaghetti and similar ones) triggered a robotic voice that "improved" his accent and translated the Italian words.

This is insane.

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