My partner usually picks him up in the evening. About 6 months ago she was busy so I did it. I picked him up, drove home, parked the car in the garage and walked straight into the house. Something felt wrong, but it was maybe 30 seconds until I realised I'd left him in the car. He was completely fine, but it put the fear of God into me.
Anyway, I'll contribute my poorly thought out technical solution - a thermal camera that monitors the seats for warm bodies, if you lock the car when present it beeps the horn.
Putting a air tag or other tracker on the child with a time based geofence is also pretty effective. It should alarm if the child is not at day care when they should be and alarm if the child is near work since you normally don't bring children to work.
The problem is its accuracy- unless your house is sufficiently large or far away from parking it will likely not alarm at being left in the car.
For me: I decided I could just slow down a bit. Standing out isn't worth the stress. I don't want to slack, but I don't feel compelled to cram productivity into every moment.
byoung2•7mo ago
snypher•7mo ago
Please let the user decide how they want to use the vehicle instead of a one-size-fits-most model. Also, please give me the option to add a baby seat monitor - if I want one!
toomuchtodo•7mo ago
adambatkin•7mo ago
Accidentally leaving a kid locked in a car on a hot Summer day is beyond horrific. How many kids should die before we think the annoyance of an extra beep would be worth it?
netsharc•7mo ago
I suppose a beep that sounds very different would get their attention, like for pilots in plane cockpits. A terrible stand-up comedian suggestion would be to reuse the plane's "retard, retard!" for parents who forget their kids...
nucleardog•7mo ago
It's not about annoyance, it's about whether it's effective at all.
If the car dings every time you turn it off to remind you "check back seat", it doesn't matter if the alert is completely unique and obnoxious and annoying, you will be trained to ignore it and it will quickly become ineffective.
There's a whole field of study here ("alarm fatigue" or "alert fatigue") that's generally looked at in terms of things like healthcare or aerospace. For example, there's a study in healthcare[0] where they found that when dealing with a system warning about drug interactions (including critical dosing errors, fatal interactions, etc) providers overrode 96% of alerts. Their "high priority drug-drug interaction" alerts were overridden 87% of the time, and on review only 0.5% of those were deemed appropriate. Other studies[1] have directly attributed this to repeated exposure desensitizing people and training them to ignore the alerts. People have died because of this.
I have a kid. I can't imagine the horror of being in that situation. I am certain that it would completely and utterly break me. I am fully onboard with a system that prevents this happening. I would be fully supportive of regulating a system that prevents this from happening. More unspecific beeps and dings is not that system.
[0] https://psnet.ahrq.gov/issue/high-priority-drug-drug-interac... [1] https://psnet.ahrq.gov/issue/evaluating-alert-fatigue-over-t...
mango7283•7mo ago
bombcar•7mo ago
Which is insane because it obviously has much more intelligent sensors - if I try to lock the doors with the windows down and the wind blowing it screams bloody murder and refuses to lock because it detects motion. Windows up and someone moving? Same thing.
But it doesn’t beep based on that.