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DOJ Statement of Interest on Suppression of Competition Through Deplatforming

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-files-statement-interest-suppression-competition-marketplace-ideas
11•sandwichsphinx•7mo ago

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wredcoll•7mo ago
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krapp•7mo ago
I assume this is an attempt to set a precedent for the repeal of Section 230 and the rolling nationalization of all large US social media platforms and regulation through a body like the FCC, something the right and many people on HN have been clamoring for.

Any platform with more than some arbitrary number of users which accepts and displays user submitted content will be required to post all legal content and will be prevented from moderating legal content without a court order.

I don't know why they bother, they won after all. Despite all of the "COVID oppression" they complain about, their views are now mainstream and an anti-vaxxer runs American medical policy. I guess they need to keep the narrative of widespread leftist censorship alive.

cosmicgadget•7mo ago
They're trying to get that through Moody v Netchoice.
123yawaworht456•7mo ago
>Maybe if people are "deplatforming" you for your view points, it means that these viewpoints have ALREADY LOST.

yeah, right... except, you know, the current president of the US and his followers.

bediger4000•7mo ago
What does this mean? Don't down vote conservatives? Don't tell conservatives they're off topic? Don't ban conservatives for spamming? Because this is plainly a result of butthurt when pre-Elon twitter banned a few conservatives for being Qanons and militant anti-vaxxers all over the place.
8note•7mo ago
i think more so, the communists need a prominent article every day on every platform
TimorousBestie•7mo ago
Which communists?
alganet•7mo ago
> “the widest possible dissemination of information from diverse and antagonistic sources is essential to the welfare of the public...”

Is AI a source? It feels like this possibility was unthinkable when that decision was made. Now, it's not.

> “[R]ight conclusions are more likely to be gathered out of a multitude of tongues, than through any kind of authoritative selection.”

Makes sense in the 40s. Now that big corporations have machines that can type following orders, this quote should also be taken with an extra grain of salt.

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These feel like obvious overlooks. It's almost as if they were selected and planted to generate oposition. That makes me believe there's something I don't know regarding how this is going to go. It's too easy.

In other words, this feels like a bait.

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My gut tells me the thing to look for is evidence of manufactured public discourse just before 2017. Whether that manufactured content was generated from a previously unknown widespread deployment of LLMs or manually produced by humans who had prior knowledge of this technology is also a relevant question.

cosmicgadget•7mo ago
> The lawsuit — led by plaintiffs allegedly deplatformed for sharing independent news and opinion related to the COVID-19 pandemic — alleges that the Washington Post, BBC, AP, and Reuters colluded with one another and with the large digital platforms to suppress competition from independent perspectives that rival mainstream media.

It's so sad to see the Justice Department turn into Infowars.

ghostgoober•7mo ago
As a libertarian, I am thankful for this investigation.

You would have to be naive not to think it has been going on at scale most often due to financial kickbacks.

Push our propaganda and remove dissent and get a large amount of money, via NGOs / shareblue / USA-ID kickback.

Lately have seen a lot of paid work from Ukraine and other money pots.

Should be made open and investigated

BoiledCabbage•7mo ago
> As a libertarian, I am thankful for this investigation.

I didn't get this line. You're saying "even though I am a libertarian I support this non-libertarian action"? Or is it something else?

Previously independent companies were free to choose what they display, now there are proposals for government mandates over their allowed actions.

I may be missing your point.

wredcoll•6mo ago
Isn't being paid to censor other people on your private platform the definition of libertarian?

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