The Scourge of Arial (2001) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10538384 - Nov 2015 (26 comments)
I have to admit, though, the New Haas revival is so amazingly good that it makes me want to like Helvetica.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helvetica_(film)
(though it's marred by Arial being passed off for Helvetica in at least one showing)
Apple's Geneva seems to be another take on Helvetica, though designed to match the Mac's original bitmap font.
kqr•6h ago
Would have been interesting to also see a note about Verdana, and know if Microsoft shifting away from Arial as the default sans serif has changed its popularity as much as one might think.
simondotau•5h ago
Personally, I loved it. I think it really encapsulated the idea of it’s so bad that it’s good and really suited the “assembled at home“ vibe.
duskwuff•4h ago
qu1j0t3•4h ago
Same problem that Georgia has: Otherwise a very serviceable Matthew Carter design.
2) It's a screen font.
In print and display applications, it really does look gross.
Source: A Friendly neighbourhood typographer
Cockbrand•3h ago
https://xkcd.com/1015/
https://xkcd.com/3113/
Source: someone who picked up a bit of knowledge about typography, but never used it professionally
elevation•3h ago
It hasn’t been a default in tools for decades, so it suggests either the organization hasn’t been able to afford to refresh the design for 25 years or the designer is incompetent.
Hate is a strong word, but Verdana is almost certainly the wrong font for your business branding in 2025.
musicale•3h ago
Y-bar•17m ago
But it looks like they have changed or customised their typeface recently, the digits and letters like "y" do not look like standard Verdana any more.