They claim to undercut competitors of similar quality by half for both models, yet they released both as Apache 2.0 instead of following smaller - open, larger - closed strategy used for their last releases.
What's different here?
Havoc•6mo ago
Probably not looking to directly compete in transcription space
wmf•6mo ago
They're working on a bunch of features so maybe those will be closed. I guess they're feeling generous on the base model.
halJordan•6mo ago
They didn't release voxtral large so your question doesn't really make sense
danelski•6mo ago
It's about what their top offering is at the moment, not having Large in name. Mistral Medium 3 is notably not Mistral Large 3, but it was released as API-only.
No. I found models doing that unreliable when there are many speakers.
4b11b4•6mo ago
This is your service?
lostmsu•6mo ago
Yes
lostmsu•6mo ago
Does it support realtime transcription? What is the ~latency?
rolisz•6mo ago
Unlikely. The small model is much larger than whisper (which is already hard to use for realtime)
ipsum2•6mo ago
24B is crazy expensive for speech transcription. Conspicuously no comparison with Parakeet, a 600M param model thats currently dominating leaderboards (but only for English)
azinman2•6mo ago
But it also includes world knowledge, can do tool calls, etc. It’s an omnimodel
qwertox•6mo ago
Only the mini is meant for pure transcription. And with the tests I just did on their API, comparing to Whisper large, they are around three times faster, more accurate and cheaper.
24B is, as sibling comment says, an omni model, it can also do function calling.
sheerun•6mo ago
In demo they mention polish prononcuation is pretty bad, spoken as if second language of english-native speaker. I wonder if it's the same for other languages. On the other hand whispering-english is hillariously good, especially different emotions.
Raed667•6mo ago
It is insane how good the "French man speaking English" demo is. It captures a lot of subtleties
potlee•6mo ago
That’s an actual French man speaking English
kamranjon•6mo ago
Im pretty excited to play around with this. I’ve worked with whisper quite a bit, it’s awesome to have another model in the same class and from Mistral, who tend to be very open. I’m sure unsloth is already working on some GGUF quants - will probably spin it up tomorrow and try it on some audio.
vivalapomy•6mo ago
Won't comment on the 24B model as I see no use for it personally, but regarding purely ASR tasks, I honestly can't see voxtral taking off. For personal usage, I've been running a quant of whisper tiny(for english), as well as whisper small(for spanish, as is my native language), and have never experienced major latency when using for globally available voice commands. Considering my machine runs an Ivy Bridge processor, using CPU inference, the pricing seems unreasonable.
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