Broadcom to discontinue free Bitnami Helm charts

https://github.com/bitnami/charts/issues/35164

78•mmoogle•4h ago

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ntqz•4h ago

I could see the writing on the wall with this.

On that note, I'm already looking at migrating my codebase off of Spring. Just testing the waters with Quarkus, Helidon, Micronaut, Pekko, Vert.x, and plain Jakarta EE right now.

_1tan•3h ago

Are there any indications or just a feel?

bags43•2h ago

Company where I work had huge risk audit.

The second highest risk is using USA based cloud with 66/100.

The first one was using Spring Boot everywhere 77/100. Till the end of 2025 we need to have migration path to something else with 2 PoCs done.

jchmbrln•2h ago

I’m completely out of the loop. What’s going on with Spring Boot?

radicalbyte•2h ago

The VMware apocalypse.

heisenbit•2h ago

One does not need VMware for SpringBoot so?

xienze•2h ago

Spring’s corporate steward is VMWare, and Broadcom bought VMWare, ergo Spring is subject to Broadcom’s whims.

TYMorningCoffee•2h ago

VMware owns Spring Boot https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring_Boot

loloquwowndueo•2h ago

Not spring boot, but spring, is owned by VMware. Sure spring is under a free license but if upstream enshittifies, community forks would be required.

mindcrime•23m ago

And as popular and widely used as Spring is, that would 100% happen. To me at least, I wouldn't count this as a particularly huge risk. But in an enterprise setting, with mandatory auditing and stuff, I can understand why there would be a requirement to at least pre-identify alternative(s).

xienze•2h ago

Probably a bit of overreaction given that Broadcom is now in charge of Spring. At the end of the day it’s a wildly popular open source project — it has a path forward if Broadcom pulls shenanigans.

That said, I have noticed that the free support window for any given version is super short these days. I.e. if you’re not on top of constantly upgrading you’re looking at paid support if you want security patches.

jcrben•33m ago

What was the actual risk of using SpringBoot tho?

lapusta•1h ago

Red Hat effectively killed their JBoss/Middleware team and the rest of it moved to IBM https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/evolving-our-middleware-strat... Quarkus and other tools were pushed to CommonHaus/Apache. I believe Vert.X was also mostly developer by RH team, although moved to Eclispe Foundation a decade ago.

Oracle also ended up somehow sponsoring 2 frameworks: Helidon & Micronaut.

I'd bet Spring is still the safest choice next to Jakarta EE standards that all are built on top of nowadays.

latchkey•9m ago

I still see Gavin working on JEE.

js4ever•2h ago

Great more enshitification! Broadcom is destroying everything they touch

jacquesm•2h ago

That's nonsense. RPi would not exist if not for Broadcom.

okanat•1h ago

RPi doesn't exist due to Broadcom. It exists despite Broadcom.

Using RPis can be a huge PITA, if you'd like to do something a bit more complex with the hardware. HDMI, the video decoders are all behind closed doors with blobs on top of blobs and NDAs.

RPi SoCs are some of the weirdest out there. It boots from the GPU ffs.

wpm•5m ago

Yeah Broadcom had a load of unsellable SOCs they needed to off load

sseveran•1h ago

This is going to cause some disruptions. What are the alternatives out there to bitnami charts?

chrisandchris•1h ago

They're all open source - fork the repo and start collectively maintain them.

gchamonlive•1h ago

That doesn't really answer the question, does it?

jahsome•25m ago

You asked for an alternative and that seems like an alternative to me.

gchamonlive•1h ago

My first thought was Linuxcontainers but I think they just maintain docker images, not helm charts

ethan_smith•1h ago

Check out Artifact Hub, the CNCF-hosted charts from projects like Prometheus/Grafana, or the official k8s-at-home charts as solid alternatives to Bitnami.

carrodher•48m ago

The source code for Bitnami containers and Helm charts remains publicly available on GitHub and continues to be licensed under Apache 2.

What’s changing is that Bitnami will no longer publish the full catalog of container images to DockerHub. If you need any image, you can still build/package it yourself from the open-source GitHub repositories.

dpkirchner•1h ago

Maybe this will finally break me of my habit of using helm charts, period.

cheshire_cat•1h ago

Why do you want to stop using helm charts? Genuine question, as I'm new to Kubernetes and helm.

chuckadams•1h ago

Write a few Helm charts and you'll understand why people want to stop using it. `nindent` will become a curse word in your vocabulary. It's a fine tool at the user level, but the DX is an atrocity.

bigstrat2003•1h ago

I mean, I have written a few (like 5-10?) and I don't understand either. I find that Helm is quite a nice tool which does its job very well.

cbzbc•1h ago

What are you planning on moving to ?

NewJazz•1h ago

Consuming one that is well written isn't too much pain, IME. But writing or modifying one can be really annoying. Aiui the values.yaml has no type schema, just vibes. The whole thing is powered off using text templating with yaml (a whitespace sensitive language), which is error prone and often hard to read. That's basically the main issues in a nutshell, it may not sound like much, but helm doesn't exactly do a whole lot and it does that limited set of stuff poorly.

remram•52m ago

I share your dislike of Helm, but FYI there are schemas for values, see for example https://github.com/bitnami/charts/blob/main/bitnami/postgres... and docs https://helm.sh/docs/topics/charts/#schema-files

zer00eyz•45m ago

I will leave it to others: https://noyaml.com

ntqz•43m ago

Grafana's Tanka is a very underappreciated tool if you have to do something similar to Helm.

skissane•33m ago

I’ve never used Helm charts. I learned K8S in a shop in which kustomize is the standard and helm is a permitted exception to the standard, but I just never felt any reason to learn helm. Am I missing out?

Sometimes the limitations of kustomize annoy me, but we find ways to live with them

bigstrat2003•17m ago

I wouldn't say you're missing out. If kustomize works for you, keep using it. I personally use helm because I cannot for the life of me wrap my head around kustomize. I've looked at tutorials, read the docs, and it just doesn't make sense to me. Helm, on the other hand, immediately clicked and I was able to pretty effortlessly write charts for our use. It's just a case of different preference in tools, imo.

chuckadams•1h ago

Broadcom gonna Broadcom. Don't anthropomorphize the lawnmower.

vibbix•38m ago

The source of this great quote, from the wonderful Bryan Cantrell: https://youtu.be/-zRN7XLCRhc

iotapi322•1h ago

That's fine , their repmgr postgres repository was a joke.

remram•56m ago

"Discontinuing this library of 120 things for everyone is fine, *I* didn't like *one of them* I won't say why"

remram•45m ago

This announcement is a little hard to read. They make it seem that the current images under docker.io/bitnami/* get deleted on August 28? But individual chart READMEs seem to say that images will move during a period starting on August 28 and ending two weeks later? But looking at https://hub.docker.com/u/bitnamilegacy images have been copied already?

From ticket https://github.com/bitnami/charts/issues/35164:

> Now – August 28th, 2025: Plan your migration: Update CI/CD pipelines, Helm repos, and image references

> August 28th, 2025: Legacy assets are archived in the Bitnami Legacy repository.

From README https://github.com/bitnami/charts/blob/4973fd08dd7e95398ddcc...:

> Starting August 28th, over two weeks, all existing container images, including older or versioned tags (e.g., 2.50.0, 10.6), will be migrated from the public catalog (docker.io/bitnami) to the “Bitnami Legacy” repository (docker.io/bitnamilegacy), where they will no longer receive updates.

What are users expected to do exactly?

carrodher•30m ago

The complete history of Bitnami container images has been copied to the "bitnamilegacy" repository. New tags will continue to be synced there until August 28th. After that date, "bitnamilegacy" will no longer receive updates, and images in the mainline "bitnami" repository will begin to be removed over a period that may take up to two weeks.

Once the cleanup is complete, the mainline "bitnami" repository on DockerHub will contain only a limited subset of Bitnami Secure Images (at this moment available at "bitnamisecure"). These are hardened, security-enhanced containers intended for development or trial use, providing a preview of the full feature set available in the paid offering.

- Bitnami: https://hub.docker.com/u/bitnami - Bitnami Legacy: https://hub.docker.com/u/bitnamilegacy - Bitnami Secure Images: https://hub.docker.com/u/bitnamisecure

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