The one open question I wish they would get at is the exact sentization mechanism behind the PD-L1 inhibitor and IFN-1 response. The idea is that cancer cells have selective pressure to hide from the immune system and one way of doing that is presenting this PD-1 receptor to the PD-L1 ligand on the immune cell, an interaction that keeps the cancer cell from being killed and one that PD-L1 inhibitor drugs target to enable tumor cells to now be visible to the immune system (as they output a lot of screwed up things that are otherwise visible to the immune system as "not self").
They tested tumors that aren't sensitive to pd-l1 inhibition so presumably evading immune surveillance another way instead of presenting PD-1, and then found them to then be sensitive to PD-L1.
It could be that within a tumor there are subclonal cells that do express PD-1 but are otherwise protected from PD-L1 inhibitiion having any effect from the hostile tumor microenvironment keeping immune surveillance from operating normally anyhow. Induce the immune response, now the T cell is in the area for PD-L1 inhibition to work. Another possibility is that the IFN-1 induction leads to PD-1 now being expressed by cells that didn't do it previously.
Authors didn't explore this though. Probably would take more experiments and mice are expensive and time consuming. It could be answered by single cell RNA sequencing of these unresponsive tumors and seeing if there is some subset of cryptic tumor cells that do express PD-1 already before IFN-1 induction. As well as measuring expression after IFN-1 induction (maybe several timepoints to measure change in gene expression profile in the tumor population, if any)
Fever and the thermal regulation of immunity: the immune system feels the heat
Don't get me wrong, it's encouraging to see research in this field progressing. But there is a long list of treatments that work in mice that do not work in humans.
I'll temper my enthusiasm with a healthy dose of pragmatism.
So, of course it gets to the HN front page, because the title is so catchy !
I guess the only way to make it go to the front page faster would have be to label the article : "MIT alumni-founded, Standford-based, YC-funded startup creates universal cancer vaccine with AI, in Rust"
If not, no.
Is there a way to ban lies about cancer vaccines, fusion reactors, and infinite battery storage ?
Sure, okay, people are working on that, and they're making small incremental improvements and that's good for them ; and unfortunately they need to advertise to secure more funding for the later incremental stage of their research. I understand that.
But please stop with the nonsensical "cancer vaccine", "miracle cancer treatment", "cancer breakthrough" etc... This is an insult to everyone who lost a loved one to cancer.
Cause I'll be _really_ happy when a _real_ cure happens (as in, when anyone can go the their doctor, for real, and get a real "cure", and they have no cancer after that, and it's a simple as getting a cure for, well, you know, the diseases that we "cure", and that are definitely not cancer ?)
But this is not today. Today we "deal" with cancer, we "spare" people some time, we squash it a bit and maybe save a couple of years if you have the "lucky" kind of cancer - and that's great, and let's continue doing that.
But enough with the headlines.
Play it like Apple, please.
Tell me about it when I can buy it.
Otherwise, I'm going to start posting things about that "AGI" that I was able to train, and that can think () !!! Trust me, it's in Rust !!
() : at the same level as a single cell organism in a simulated environment
Sorry if this comes across as snarky but perhaps you should not read posts on a hacker forum, and instead limit yourself to reading advertisements?
https://www.statnews.com/2019/04/15/in-mice-twitter-account-...
I personally know several people who have gotten breast cancer and survived! I remember when that was practically a death sentence. Ditto for colon cancer. Even your prospects for lung cancer have improved dramatically.
What has made this progress possible is this relentless research. Research that leads to reports being published. Promising leads being discussed. A huge portion of this research leads to dead ends - BUT - some leads to real progress and has in turn lead to real lives being saved. So I say continue with the research and continue publishing and sharing the research results.
If the title said "Might someday" then that would probably be a more accurate picture of where something at this stage of research is at.
Obviously some people here want to know all up-and-coming possibilities, clinical trials, or longshots because we're nerds about it. But others of us only care about the ones that are already succeeding in people. Having titles differentiate the two can avoid the frustration.
That being said, would any of this incremental research have been slower, or canceled, or derailed, if the HN articles about intermediate reports of lab experiment on mice had the word "on mice" in the title ?
That's literally all I'm asking for here.
rpdillon•3h ago
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41551-025-01380-1
This is the abstract, though, which suggests the need for a standard "in mice" disclaimer:
> The success of cancer immunotherapies is predicated on the targeting of highly expressed neoepitopes, which preferentially favours malignancies with high mutational burden. Here we show that early responses by type-I interferons mediate the success of immune checkpoint inhibitors as well as epitope spreading in poorly immunogenic tumours and that these interferon responses can be enhanced via systemic administration of lipid particles loaded with RNA coding for tumour-unspecific antigens. In mice, the immune responses of tumours sensitive to checkpoint inhibitors were transferable to resistant tumours and resulted in heightened immunity with antigenic spreading that protected the animals from tumour rechallenge. Our findings show that the resistance of tumours to immunotherapy is dictated by the absence of a damage response, which can be restored by boosting early type-I interferon responses to enable epitope spreading and self-amplifying responses in treatment-refractory tumours.
_Microft•3h ago
[0] "In this study on mice with melanoma, the vaccine was able to clear existing tumors that had proven drug-resistant."
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CoastalCoder•2h ago
I'm guessing this is rarely tested since animal modeling is usually a gating factor for human testing?
mrosett•1h ago
The catch here is that only two targets (PD(L)-1 and CTLA-4) turned out to work well in humans. All of the other immunotherapies that looked mediocre preclinically turned out to also be mediocre or entirely ineffective in humans.
rolph•3h ago
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41590-019-0416-z
https://news.uthscsa.edu/scientists-create-first-mouse-model...
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41571-022-00721-2
its not just, put it in a mouse, then guess about what happens to humans.
karaterobot•3h ago