Online discussion of this tends to the super negative. I've said here and in reddit flows that I think digerati seriously underestimate how concerned parents are. I think this move is possibly more popular than people give credence to. (-my son is 32 and I do not claim to be super concerned on his behalf)
It's clear from this article your historical relationship with a search agent like Google can inform their sense of need to check ID: I have a 20+ year old google identity and they know me inside out.
I also tend to hammer on about homomorphic encryption. There is no need for a third party who sees your 100pts identity checks to know where you go. For me personally, noting a technical fix to a social problem is unusual, I tend to say it's a mistake to reach for tech fixing society, but the paranoia around "the government sees my activity proving who I am" has a specific, cryptographically defined solution.
jiggawatts•4h ago
There’s a much simpler solution: the government can stay out of my personal pastimes.
It’s simply none of their business.
Parents have commercially available solutions for censoring their own home internet if they choose.
They and the government has no need to track my activities online to do so.
PS: The Australian Government says they can be trusted with this power but has abused it every time. Every. Time.
ggm•4h ago
If they used homomorphic third party checks, they wouldn't be in your search. It's none of their business and they can't know.
Look I get it, I'll probably be in VPN too sometimes. But you kind of delivered my message: you hate it, you don't seem to think a LOT of parents will want it.
Clean feed DNS is only so useful.
I'm guessing you also don't like MyGov ID either. Or Hawk's Australia card. Personally I like one stop shop for my tax and medicals and centrelink.
So what abuse specifically are you referring to in "this power" and abuse? Police access? ASIO access?
jiggawatts•2h ago
There’s nothing wrong with government ID for government services. They need to know who I am to serve me.
Government tracking which sites I visit is not okay.
PS: I’ve worked for every organisation you’ve mentioned. I trust none of them, at all, precisely because I’ve seen how ineptly they deal with citizen data first hand. Not a single person I’ve met in the IT departments of any of those orgs could spell homomorphic, let alone implement such an algorithm in a meaningfully privacy preserving way.
ggm•4h ago
It's clear from this article your historical relationship with a search agent like Google can inform their sense of need to check ID: I have a 20+ year old google identity and they know me inside out.
I also tend to hammer on about homomorphic encryption. There is no need for a third party who sees your 100pts identity checks to know where you go. For me personally, noting a technical fix to a social problem is unusual, I tend to say it's a mistake to reach for tech fixing society, but the paranoia around "the government sees my activity proving who I am" has a specific, cryptographically defined solution.
jiggawatts•4h ago
It’s simply none of their business.
Parents have commercially available solutions for censoring their own home internet if they choose.
They and the government has no need to track my activities online to do so.
PS: The Australian Government says they can be trusted with this power but has abused it every time. Every. Time.
ggm•4h ago
Look I get it, I'll probably be in VPN too sometimes. But you kind of delivered my message: you hate it, you don't seem to think a LOT of parents will want it.
Clean feed DNS is only so useful.
I'm guessing you also don't like MyGov ID either. Or Hawk's Australia card. Personally I like one stop shop for my tax and medicals and centrelink.
So what abuse specifically are you referring to in "this power" and abuse? Police access? ASIO access?
jiggawatts•2h ago
Government tracking which sites I visit is not okay.
PS: I’ve worked for every organisation you’ve mentioned. I trust none of them, at all, precisely because I’ve seen how ineptly they deal with citizen data first hand. Not a single person I’ve met in the IT departments of any of those orgs could spell homomorphic, let alone implement such an algorithm in a meaningfully privacy preserving way.