It would seem that the old rule of thumb of booking long in advance to get a cheaper ticket isn’t really relevant anymore?
Later, as more tickets are sold they have more information about the flight and thus they may make adjustments to the ticket pricing. Either opening up more low-cost tickets that were sold at the beginning of the flight or reducing the number of low-cost tickets to meet high demand.
Since airlines can't outright ask you if you're flying business, they'll instead offer tradeoffs that a business flier won't make. So plan in advance, but be flexible in trading off day-of-week or time-of-day.
I have always booked corporate flights through an internal portal system. I assumed that this identified me as a belonging to X company, so my options would be priced by some standing agreement with the airline. Is this not true?
The other huge tell is last minute purchases. A lot of business travel ends up being decided on a week or two before the flight so last minute flights tend to cost more even though in some sense the value of the seat declines as the flight approaches. E.g. an empty seat is worth $0 and a pure loss to the airline so they should want to sell those seats before the flight even if they get minimal revenue. For biz travelers, clients often pay for travel expenses so inflated pricing for that flight tomorrow is worth it.
And it can be helpful if you’re very flexible. If my dates are very strict then I’ll tend to book further in advance, whereas if I have a lot of wiggle room then I’ll wait it out.
My biggest takeaway from this article is that I should go and see which of these systems have APIs I can query, because if I have a lot of flexibility I think it'd be easier to script it than clicking through a whole bunch of different options on google flights trying to find what the cheapest fare is. I want to be able to write a script that says "here are my dealbreakers, here are the range of dates I can leave on, here's the range for coming back, go and find the best deal"
I guess that's the type of service people typically build and charge for.
i had a rude awakening when i got to the airport. This "first class" ticket was actually more like a premium economy ticket. I didn't get access to the first class check in line, no access to the lounge, no priority boarding, and the seats themselves had no extra bonus other than being in the front of the plane and slightly wider.
it was at that moment i realized there was no beating airlines and good deals aren't really that good unless you got the money to spend.
A friend of mine recently got a too-good-to-be-true fare from Europe to Asia on Qatar, and the ticket was promptly cancelled and refunded by the airline when they found the error.
I'm confused a little by what you are saying, are you saying that there was first class boarding but you were not allowed to participate? was there a first class lounge with the name of your airline and you were not allowed to use it? etc.
I also had the misfortune to spend 6 hours in a BA lounge in Heathrow in 2022. Good lord. At least the gin was free.
Travelling ain't what it was.
¹Here in Australia there's no such thing as domestic First. We call that Business: if you want to travel First, you must go internationally.
I flew a few weeks ago (Lufthanse, Lisbon to Berlin). I found some seating near the gate (always in short supply) and I observed people starting to queue to board. Lufthansa uses groups to structure the boarding. Mine was group five, last in (perfect!). So I remained seated while people nervously started to queue long before the gate was open. In the end, it took another 40 minutes before I stood up and boarded. Some of the people queuing were in the same group as me so they just got told off by the ground staff and were kind of just waiting for their turn right until the end.
The most stupid thing is when the boarding turns out to be a bus ride to the plane. You get crammed into the bus with all the other passengers and then the last one in is the first one out into the plane. I've seen that happen on smaller flights. So, you get people paying extra to be first into the bus being out competed by people like me that just wait until the last moment. The bus won't leave until the bus is crammed full. And it generally has no or very little seating. Much better to be on the last bus.
One other one I ran into with the “dead last” strategy was I ended up waiting in line anyhow… on the jet bridge, which was worse than waiting in a queue in a nice airport terminal. So my purely practical brain says to go at the beginning of my group, get it over with, and then I can be settled with no worries rather than having to pay attention to the boarding sequence at all.
Boarding at the very beginning makes a huge difference.
It's a 30 minute chunk of time in which you get to relax. Once you're in your seat there really is nothing else to do. You can work, you can watch a movie, you can think, read a book.
No latent anxiety wondering when I should get up, no "I can't really focus on this book because I might have to get up any minute," etc.
For a relatively short flight (2 hours) it's a pretty meaningful % of time that becomes a lot more relaxing.
This is a key point. When I used to fly once or twice per year to go on vacation it didn't really matter too much. Now I'm flying sometimes more than twice/month often international and all these little niceties add up. Global Entry is a must, some type of lounge with wifi and snacks is nice. Getting on early enough so I don't have to worry about them forcing me to check which then adds a ton of time when I land (or worse, lost luggage which happens all the time). And yes, I can relax and get back to what I was doing - likely reading a book :)
It turns out most airlines have one, and while some content seems to be gated behind contracts and login walls, a lot of it is just out there.
Compared to the consumer-focused sites, there's a lot less marketing fluff and a lot more industry lingo (which Google and/or a frontier model can usually help you with). Most of the content is just weird aviation trivia; those sites won't let you book a flight, but you will learn a lot of minutiae about how an Amdeus PNR looks like, how to indicate that a passenger is carrying human ashes in Sabre, or what order an agent needs to make bookings in.
Some interesting things I found, in no particular order:
https://www.lufthansaexperts.com/shared/files/lufthansa/publ...
https://www.lufthansaexperts.com/shared/files/lufthansa/publ...
https://www.qatarairways.com/tradeportal/en/bookingnticketin...
https://support.travelport.com/webhelp/Smartpoint1P/Content/...
https://pro.delta.com/content/agency/us/en/site-map.html
https://pro.delta.com/content/agency/us/en/policy-library/di...
> It's standard practice for airlines to offer refunds or credits when prices drop after you book
Why would they do that? Unless there's some regulation forcing them to I can't imagine a company would willingly give up money like that, no matter how many hoops they make you jump through.
So yeah, it could work in this particular case, but still not sure it’s a good deal. They say they’re getting you some “credits”, while you could just rebook for the new price and refund the old one and get the difference in cash instead.
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Majromax•6mo ago
The content seems legitimate, but I felt like my time was being wasted through at minimum a lack of editing.
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andy99•6mo ago
I wondered that too.
I don't want to offend anyone, and have no idea how it was written, and I already know most of this stuff so am not the audience. But respectfully I feel like it had a lot of words for a fairly shallow overview, which feels AI-ish, plus the "delve" at the beginning got my radar up. This is sort of what I expect from Manus or one of those ersatz "research" LLMs. Anyway, it's got lots of upvotes, hopefully people are finding it useful.
(Edit to add: it's actually content marketing for some kind of [questionable, subscribe to access some hidden refund thing] travel company so I don't feel bad criticizing anymore)
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"Deep-dive" is the call-to-action.
xp84•6mo ago
that "They don't just _____ -- they ________" construction! It's definitely a "once you see it" thing that you start to see constantly in AI-generated content! I wonder why the model loves that so much
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bigdict•6mo ago
dashes
an explicit "conclusion" section at the end
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I am forever angry that LLMs have ruined em-dashes. They’re a wonderful part of punctuation.
cptcobalt•6mo ago
I think the telltale for me that makes me count as heavily AI-assisted is the lack of inclusion of real, inline examples of actual fares & their restrictions. I know I've seen them broken down before in other content. But not once here was there a full readout of an actual fare bucket & its rules. I think a human writer would have been tempted to include even one of those as an artifact, but an AI as a topic reviewer/summarizer/collator won't unless explicitly instructed.