When the start of the search is organically moving to chatGPT & other gen AI services - how would users even go from here to Google ?
Bluestein•4h ago
Google is effectively dead.-
Fade_Dance•3h ago
Google is at 16 billion searches a day currently. It is not "effectively dead."
amusely•3h ago
statistically based on engagement - chatgpt is 14 requests/user/day vs google which is at 7requests/user/day
Google has significantly higher user count overall but the usage trend is not in Google's favor.
Bluestein•3h ago
Fair enough ...
... Was, Indeed, extrapolating. And doing so, considering that their "AI-oriented" efforts (to play catch up - with the "AI Summaries" and such) are being met with due revulsion.-
marginalia_nu•1h ago
I don't know if that is necessarily a point in favor of chatgpt.
The better a search engine (or AI chatbot) works, the fewer queries you need to make to find what you are looking for, so the numbers could also be interpreted as Google still being the more accurate tool for queries.
throwaway915•3h ago
Google is on almost every mobile device that's not Apple.
This antitrust is the thing keeping Google going.
jasonthorsness•3h ago
ChatGPT is consistently fast now and gives me much better results than Google. IMO Google has damaged their brand with their "AI Overview" which apparently is a meme/laughingstock amongst the middle school crowd at least at my kids' school.
It's weird because I love the Gemini models; they are very good; Google is fumbling this.
joegibbs•3h ago
It’s really terrible, not only does it get a ton of things obviously wrong but it also gets contradicted by the first search result, and it smugly tells you you’re wrong in an authoritative tone as if you’re some kind of idiot for even asking it.
amusely•3h ago
Probably also the reason why GEO is becoming as important as SEO these days.
amusely•4h ago
Bluestein•4h ago
Fade_Dance•3h ago
amusely•3h ago
Google has significantly higher user count overall but the usage trend is not in Google's favor.
Bluestein•3h ago
... Was, Indeed, extrapolating. And doing so, considering that their "AI-oriented" efforts (to play catch up - with the "AI Summaries" and such) are being met with due revulsion.-
marginalia_nu•1h ago
The better a search engine (or AI chatbot) works, the fewer queries you need to make to find what you are looking for, so the numbers could also be interpreted as Google still being the more accurate tool for queries.
throwaway915•3h ago
This antitrust is the thing keeping Google going.