Because the sellers can sell to another country without the tariff. American buyers have no alternative.
American buyers, however, can buy their products from anyone in the world. They can choose to buy domestically, or to import from countries that have lower tariffs.
Tariffs are taxes that locals pay on stuff imported from abroad.
What's next? Is Bloomberg going to be telling us that fluoridation is preventing tooth demineralization and not actually helping the Communists?
It appears to me that Trump sometimes uses the threat of tariffs to get him myself some emoluments. After that, many of his tariffs seem nonsensical
Tariffs are a double edged sword because the hurt purchasing power of consumers without really generating much money for the government.
The administration is going to focus on the fact that tariffs don't really drive inflation, but are going to miss the forest for the trees: prices won't go up because we all have become a little poorer.
Here's a thing with a punitive tariff on it. People won't buy it because the price went up too much. It is because prices went up that nobody buys it. (And we all become poorer because we can afford less, whether or not the price increase shows up in the inflation statistics.)
Tariffs have their own Laffer Curve just like income taxes do. Sure, you can set them so that the government gets zero (or close) revenue. But you don't have to. You can set them so that the government gets quite a bit of money. (Note well: I am not claiming that Trump is setting them there.)
If the Trump admin was serious about rebuilding the industrial base, they'd be providing subsidies and federal grants, not tariffs. They'd also be sucking money out of the economy by increasing the number and top marginal rates on the income tax and patching loopholes in the corporate tax code. At the same time, they'd be cutting taxes for the bottom 80% of America and providing healthcare and childcare subsidies.
Usually to bring big existing companies back either by choice or kicking and screaming about being weaned off unsustainably cheap labour...
As for new companies, other than the valley or DoD contracts what's new? Electric cars which aren't popular in a country that doesn't apply tax at the pump.
Grover Norquist is smiling from the grave right now, watching this bipartisan anti-tax push.
More interesting to me is how Trump has managed to multiply the effects of tariffs by creating complete chaos (either on purpose or by accident.) The tariffs never turn out to be as high as they were marketed as. They are reapplied and dropped on alternate months. He makes the ending of tariffs contingent on actual concessions on other issues that the US is concerned about, but also makes them contingent on bullshit that no one would ever agree to.
All of this is creating the stress that causes people to restructure their supply chains, manufacturing, and logistics, at first to get the flexibility to adjust when Trump veers, but they can always see the alternative of cutting out imports at all which would frees them from any of that. The drama ("uncertainty") around tariffs is in and of itself a tariff (that will be seen in prices) that isn't being collected by the government, it's going into efforts by businesses to onshore and/or diversify their vendors. That onshoring is also going to raise consumer prices until it lowers them again.
That would be the price for demanding US labor standards be used in making US products, too. If we wanted to stop depending on foreign slave labor for cheap disposable shit, I don't know how we do that without tariffs. "Free trade" is an active enemy of labor rights.
Grover Norquist is smiling from the grave right now, watching this bipartisan anti-tax push.
Someone buried Grover Norquist alive?Maybe calling these "import taxes" instead of "tarrifs" would help emphasize that to the average voter?
A tariff as you might recall is punitive for the ultra rich people who want to outsource American workers for practically slave labor in other countries. Make no mistake America paid for its entire finances for the first 120 years just fine without an income tax.
I would love to understand why you think it is punitive for the ultra rich.
value added taxes are paid on the profit made on the good, and are paid by the seller (because the buyer doesn't know what the profit is). value added taxes are basically corporate income taxes
Taking huge chunks out of American opportunism (defunding science, health care, education, space, and so much else), blowing a huge chunk out of social welfare programs: that's going to cause amazing downgrades for most people. Paths to success closed, cost of getting by vastly higher. (All while walking over all over habeus corpus, while collecting & colating data of everyone in the homeland, while building concentration camps and tossing random hairdressers in international terrorism dungeons; denigrating the population generally, humiliating basic rights of man.)
But the plutocratic class doesn't really notice the change. The Global Elite E1 Barbarian class (of Michael O Church 3 ladders) doesn't notice or care. They stay about the same, but the sinking tide leaves many other boats grounded.
It sure seems like there's an international conspiracy of the very wealthy to screw over the land of opportunity right now. And there's 219+53 people in congess and two in the White House happily helping aid and abet this pushing opporunity off the cliff.
Fits perfectly hand in glove with the Network State ideology (which seeks to make who you know and what connections you've gathered define your environment) and the Christofascist ideology (which says religion should rule), both of which resent government as it is, which are part of the broader long campaign to "starve the beast". But to regionalize this situation to the US feels like it misses how the real nature of the E1 Global Barbarian Elite's desire to make clear their ascent over all others.
The OP article is short on data and only has a few anecdotes. Like GM, who makes 50% of their US-sold cars outside of the US. And no mention of GM passing any price increases onto consumers.
Let's look at Japanese automakers. Japanese auto exports to the US declined 25% by value in May, but only 4% by volume. But only in the US - the price of autos exported to non-US destinations was flat. Toyota et al. are eating the cost of the tariffs, not passing them on.[1] Chart[2]
Bloomberg itself looked at PPI data recently and observed, "core goods were the main source of price pressures in May, suggesting that companies may be eating some of the added costs from tariffs." Core goods continue to be a source of disinflation in consumer prices but a source of persistent inflation in producer prices hints at pressure on corporate margins.
Core CPI continues to print lower than street expectations, for five consecutive months now. Far lower than what the Fed is concerned about, and certainly leagues lower than what the consumer expects (according to UMich study).
Contrary to popular wisdom, US inflation isn't soaring for the simple reason that costs are not being borne by domestic consumers.
[1]https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Automobiles/Japan-auto-expo... [2]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GuFMrZRW0AA7Rc0?format=png&name=...
however, paying the tariffs is essentially paying taxes and the government needs money and there’s nothing wrong with that. this one has the extra sword of helping our other Americans find work and increasing the likelihood that foreign goods will be purchased from allied nations and not totalitarian dictatorships with goals that might end in ww3 with the usa, while not completely cratering our economic system with full and immediate decoupling.
In the same way that laws against pumping your own gas help other Americans find work. It makes everyone else poorer instead of naturally created jobs which provide goods and services people want.
> increasing the likelihood that foreign goods will be purchased from allied nations and not totalitarian dictatorships
Citation needed, this round of tariffs have also fallen on our allies
Maybe those folks can be competitive within the US given the absurd tariffs. But will they be competitive on any global scale, with those additional headwinds? And if TACO or years pass and tariffs get rescinded, having that massive extra overhead on CapEx is not a good position to be in.
So no, you don't get re-industrialization, you get stagflation. It's idiocracy.
The next step is to work around tariffs where you can and need to which forces innovation and jobs on both sides of the border.
But don't worry, the falling dollar will compensate.
If you want to incentive domestic reindustrialization, you do it with things like the Inflation Reduction Act, CHIPS act or the "Green New Deal" where congress lays out clear sets of rules in law with a mixture of tax incentives, loan programs and spending to give investors and corporations confidence to make decade-long commitments of capital to major projects.
Yes because of all the silicon fab plants popping up in the EU and Africa?...
Further to that, 80% of the economy is services or otherwise has nothing to do with imports. Tariffs are not affecting haircuts or yoga classes or bank fees.
Seems to me like tariffs are being used as a convenient excuse.
You might argue that the retail channel can eat the difference, but it doesn't make sense to make the same absolute margin on goods that are subject to volatile tariff policies. It makes it hard to predict how many units will sell, how much stock to maintain, and creates a big risk that any units on shelves will suddenly be devalued when these tariffs are rescinded.
The price of food is based on the price of domestic produce and the price of imports. If taxes are levied on food imports it will raise the mean price of food. As yoga instructors need food to do their job (in fact, they need it to live), they would have to raise their prices.
It’s a pernicious problem exacerbated by conservative media that’s 24 hour xenophobia and jingoism. It’s not just the US look to your countrymen dear reader!
That is what you test-taking, credential hustlers do not understand.
Also, obvious political bias.
mensetmanusman•6h ago
Consumers getting Nd:YAG lasers from China below cost are also weakening the laser supply chain elsewhere. Tariffs are a type of response to these situations.
SideburnsOfDoom•6h ago
"If you look at page 1 of the tariff handbook, it says: Don't tariff inputs. It's the simplest way to make it harder—more expensive—for Americans to do business. Any factory around the world can get the steel, copper, and aluminum it needs without paying a 50% upcharge, except an American factory."
https://bsky.app/profile/justinwolfers.bsky.social/post/3lud...
cyanydeez•5h ago
As such, the way in which they're used can easily be disguished between "hidden tax" and "design to affect production location".
These tariffs are, as a whole, about adding a hidden tax.
afavour•5h ago
Tariffs need to be applied surgically and... they are not
plorkyeran•5h ago
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dragontamer•5h ago
But those areas don't have anywhere close to the land of Brazil, Columbia or Vietnam.
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Another example: bauxite ore (Australia is our chief partner in that IIRC). USA somehow is missing the raw ore for Aluminum despite nearly everyone else in the world having it.
There's lots of things we can't make
SideburnsOfDoom•5h ago
Something not quite the same, but parallel is happening with Florida oranges:
> Only 12m boxes of oranges will have been produced in Florida by the end of this year (2024), ... The figure is 33% lower than a year ago, and less than 5% of the 2004 harvest of 242m boxes.
> It is also dwarfed by the 378m boxes expected to be produced this year in Brazil
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/22/florida-oran...
xnx•5h ago
SideburnsOfDoom•5h ago
And tariffs won't change that.
xnx•5h ago
croes•5h ago
At the end of the day the prices still rise just not as much as with the tariffs but higher than foreign made without tariffs.
cosmicgadget•5h ago
Melonololoti•5h ago
If you mean that we exploit Chinese people by not giving them the proper salary, living standard and retirement fund, yeah true
But parallel to that, automatization has reached a level we never had before.
I don't think tarifs would lead to more capital in USA in the right/expected pockets.