Turns out the lies don’t matter. Disappointing for sure.

> Sorry for posting so much about Tesla, but I feel like not enough people realize how scammy this whole thing is.

Much of HN speaks on behalf of their investing portfolio and not logic or righteousness.

I think that's social media for you.

Brave predictions (that cost nothing even if your wrong) are glorified before they've even done anything.

There was a story posted on HN about someone who said they thought they'd start a company making laptops and zero indication they would / could do that. The emphasis on empty "predictions" is weird.

Tesla is having exactly the same regulatory hurdles on Robotaxi deployment as me. In both cases they are nonexistent. And we both don't have the technology necessary for running a Robotaxi service.

Tesla knows that damn well. That's why they did NOT even try to apply for any driverless commercial robotaxi service license. But hey, it's a nice plausible argument.

Here a recent story about a similar argument: https://electrek.co/2025/07/11/elon-musk-tesla-robotaxi-is-c...

Relevant quotes:

"The CEO also said that Tesla will bring Robotaxi to the Bay Area in California with “a month or two” and that the company is just waiting for “regulatory approvals”:"

" The CA DMV said that Tesla has yet to apply for those permits as of Thursday, July 10:

“To date, Tesla has not applied for either a driverless testing or deployment permit.”"

It's playing to Elon's narrative to even mention regulatory hurdles when it's clear they aren't technically there either. He'd love if they were banned because FSD is still completely unreliable and his 10 robotaxis have already had many documented issues. Unfortunately hard to keep his story with waymo running actual Robotaxis with no employees in them.