The people doing this are directly attempting to destroy a culture and replace It with their own. I think that should have some repercussions?
paulryanrogers•6mo ago
The article says it's illegal and they're having trouble tracing the devices back to those responsible.
Having briefly participated in some illegal and covert missionary work, I hope they are stopped. Of course when your mission is from heaven then no risk is too great. Looking back from the outside, it does amaze me the logic pretzels one learns to make to justify stuff like this when raised in the church.
That said, IME, some of these groups do have decent opsec, and they have to considering the penalties in certain countries.
JohnFen•6mo ago
> Of course when your mission is from heaven then no risk is too great.
That's just straight-up fanatacism, right there.
theoreticalmal•6mo ago
I wouldn’t suggest that Christianized culture is necessarily superior, but I’m also not completely sure that every culture necessarily has the same value, and is equally worth preserving
JohnFen•6mo ago
This implies that some cultures are in a position to judge the "value" of other cultures. I disagree with that very idea.
K0balt•6mo ago
I think there is validity in debating the metrics by which a culture should be measured, but ultimately I think that the greater good is served by allowing each culture to determine its own path. This maximises diversity of approaches to problem solving and philosophy, things which are far from solved problems for humanity.
This is not saying that cultures shouldn’t evolve, adapt, and embrace changing environments, but rather that it is probably a disservice to humanity for one culture to informatically infiltrate and destroy another without an appropriate contest that would establish a hierarchy of fitness. Even then, what kind of fitness? What is a fair contest? Etc etc etc.
Best just to let it be, and let them work out their best way forward.
clown_strike•6mo ago
Advertising does this every day. Proselytizing just sells ideas instead of products. Users are not asked for consent either way.
Qem•6mo ago
Now even isolated people in the Amazon can't escape spam. Missionaries were analog spammers before computer age.
K0balt•6mo ago
paulryanrogers•6mo ago
Having briefly participated in some illegal and covert missionary work, I hope they are stopped. Of course when your mission is from heaven then no risk is too great. Looking back from the outside, it does amaze me the logic pretzels one learns to make to justify stuff like this when raised in the church.
That said, IME, some of these groups do have decent opsec, and they have to considering the penalties in certain countries.
JohnFen•6mo ago
That's just straight-up fanatacism, right there.
theoreticalmal•6mo ago
JohnFen•6mo ago
K0balt•6mo ago
This is not saying that cultures shouldn’t evolve, adapt, and embrace changing environments, but rather that it is probably a disservice to humanity for one culture to informatically infiltrate and destroy another without an appropriate contest that would establish a hierarchy of fitness. Even then, what kind of fitness? What is a fair contest? Etc etc etc.
Best just to let it be, and let them work out their best way forward.
clown_strike•6mo ago