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Open in hackernews

EU kills Android bootloader unlock starting August 1

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45•methuselah_in•6mo ago

Comments

robin_reala•6mo ago
I’m trying to read the law[1] on this but I’m having difficulty finding the part that forces Android devices to have locked bootloaders. There’s recital 19 that talks about “verification by radio equipment of the compliance of its combination with software”, but there’s nothing stopping a vendor from using a seperate modem / baseband and CPU (like Apple does) right?

[1] https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/dir/2014/53/oj/eng

BaardFigur•6mo ago
Samsung is just inventing a reason to lock the bootloader
amelius•6mo ago
What does the law say about vendors that include a special code for "servicing" the device, and the code leaks out?
diggan•6mo ago
As is usual, there seems to be a massive misunderstanding what the directive is and means. The TLDR is that the directive contains no clauses that compels phone makers to keep the Android bootloader locked or that forbids EU users from unlocking it.

Samsung's public reasoning might be that disabling unlocking the bootloader because of the directive, but there is nothing in the directive that forces them to lock the bootloader. It does sound like a convenient scapegoat if they don't want to talk about the real reasons though.

The phone makes who end up disabling the unlocking of bootloaders are all doing so on their own accord, not because some regulation is forcing them to.

Finally, the EU’s broader right-to-repair policies makes it kind of impossible that an outright prohibition of unlocking the bootloader could happen. But of course, nuance doesn't make people click article titles on the web...

atemerev•6mo ago
What can be used for evil, will be used for evil.

Lawmakers need to assume that their laws will be interpreted and abused in the worst possible way.

diggan•6mo ago
> Lawmakers need to assume that their laws will be interpreted and abused in the worst possible way.

Is there anything from the current directive's text that makes you believe they didn't already? Again, this directive doesn't require them to disable the unlocking of bootloaders in any shape or form.

If the company want to disable the unlocks, they'll do so for as long as there is no regulation forces them to keep them open, regardless if there are unrelated directives or not.

danelski•6mo ago
In general, you cannot stop people from pointing at a thing and claiming it's something else.
qiine•6mo ago
I just hate smartphone, at this point I just want pocket PC. I don't want to deal with this for the decades to come.
qiine•6mo ago
with linux ofc
diggan•6mo ago
Same here, was hoping the Pinephone to be that, and while it's cool and overall neat, the software wasn't there the last time I tried (year ago or so). Hopefully one day :)
hilbert42•6mo ago
Exactly, I've used unlocked phones for years and treat my smartphone as a pocket computer. I'm fed up with all that security nonsense as it's a fucking hindrance to how I want to configure my devices.

In fact, my actual phone is now just a feature phone and the smartphone my portable computer with internet access via WiFi and a pocket router with SIM card.

solnyshok•6mo ago
Isn't there a feature phone in the market that is 5G, good battery and capable of sharing its internet via wifi hotspot?
hilbert42•6mo ago
I'm still looking for one, mine's currently an older 4g.
Y-bar•6mo ago
The linked article says:

> As of August 2025, manufacturers selling devices in the EU need to:

> Block the installation of unauthorized software

> Use Secure Boot (or similar) to verify firmware authenticity

> Ensure only signed and approved ROMs can run

But the text at https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg_del/2022/30/oj/eng mentions no word such as "authorized"/"unauthorized" or "authent(icity)" or "signed" or "approved" so how can we know that this is the EU which does this when it seems like the removal was global, as seen in this article: https://xiaomitime.com/android-makers-remove-bootloader-unlo... ?

Stagnant•6mo ago
I feel like these articles are just AI slop. There isn't anything in those regulations that would necessitate locking the bootloader.
pseudo0•6mo ago
It's trendy to blame everything on AI, but this looks like good old-fashioned journo clickbait. The site has been around since 2017 and appears to be a Turkish content mill focusing on Chinese phones.
dhx•6mo ago
The means be which restriction of user choice of software would occur appears to be Article 3(3) point (i) of Directive 2014/53/EU.[1] But as you point out, Commission Delegated Regulation (EU) 2022/30 referred to in the source article makes no reference to point (i), only points (d), (e) and (f):[2]

(d) radio equipment does not harm the network or its functioning nor misuse network resources, thereby causing an unacceptable degradation of service;

(e) radio equipment incorporates safeguards to ensure that the personal data and privacy of the user and of the subscriber are protected;

(f) radio equipment supports certain features ensuring protection from fraud;

These so-called "requirements" are so vague that if there was a regulatory body gatekeeping radio devices, I could easily see how the regulatory body could interpret those "requirements" however they wish, including just stonewalling any manufacturer who wishes to argue about the vagueness and interpretation of these so-called "requirements". But the fact that point (i) of Article 3(3) of Directive 2014/53/EU is separated from points (d) through (f) seemingly could be used to argue that "requirements" (d) through (f) were not intended to restrict user choice of software, else point (i) would have also been referenced by Commission Delegated Regulation (EU) 2022/30?

[1] https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/dir/2014/53/oj/eng

[2] https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg_del/2022/30/oj/eng

Y-bar•6mo ago
That's a good point, I have nothing to add. However, another commenter highlighted this interesting section: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44766342
Ayesh•6mo ago
https://www.riskinsight-wavestone.com/en/2025/07/radio-equip...

This page (cited by the article at the bottom) has a lot more context and somewhat detailed technical. Information.

Svip•6mo ago
Under the section "Software authenticity" does it mention that the secure boot requirement appears to come from article 3, §3 (i).

Quoting article 3, §3 (i):

> radio equipment supports certain features in order to ensure that software can only be loaded into the radio equipment where the compliance of the combination of the radio equipment and software has been demonstrated.

The opening of §3 is:

> Radio equipment within certain categories or classes shall be so constructed that it complies with the following essential requirements:

Source: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/dir/2014/53/oj/eng

diggan•6mo ago
Still won't lead to a forced disabling of unlocked bootloaders, or making that illegal, mostly because the directive doesn't outright forbid that. But also because of this section:

> (19) Verification by radio equipment of the compliance of its combination with software should not be abused in order to prevent its use with software provided by independent parties.

Put together with the EU’s broader right-to-repair, if any phone manufacturer disables unlocking the bootloader, they're doing so for other reasons, not because RED rules forces them to.

woleium•6mo ago
so no updating the baseband software, but that has been the case for years
jjani•6mo ago
This sets a new record for worst AI slop posted on HN so far.
JdeBP•6mo ago
A quick chase around the company information leads to a shell company that is pretty much typosquatting Meta, and seems to be in either Türkiye or Wyoming. So there are a few red flags that this is at best a very low quality news source.
hilbert42•6mo ago
Why was this story flagged? This story raises important issues about smartphones that need discussing.

The story may be hyped but the underlying issues are very relevant.

owebmaster•6mo ago
Google killed it, not EU.
hilbert42•6mo ago
So Google influences HN policy, eh?
doublerabbit•6mo ago
Maybe some. A large of "hackers" on this site work at Google and they tend to get angry if you mention anything bad about google
hilbert42•6mo ago
As above.
owebmaster•6mo ago
If you consider current Google employees and the laid off yes, Google influences HN heavily
hilbert42•6mo ago
OK, I accept that.
jjani•6mo ago
It's absolute bottom barrel, 100% auto-generated slop.