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Time to upgrade my laptop – need advice please

16•zyruh•6mo ago
Looking for a high-performance PC (non-Mac) for data-heavy workloads — suggestions?

It's time to upgrade. I'm looking for a Windows/Linux-compatible machine (no Mac) that can handle:

Large spreadsheet workloads (think multi-GB Excel/CSV files)

4K+ video editing and exports

Possibly some ML experimentation later on

I was considering a high-end gaming PC for the GPU + RAM benefits, but not sure if that’s the best tradeoff for thermals, noise, and form factor. Open to desktop or laptop, though portability is a plus.

What builds or machines would you recommend in 2025 for blazing speed + stability?

Comments

bigyabai•6mo ago
Wait for Q1 2026 and Nvidia will have probably announced their laptop product. Otherwise your best shot is a beefy Ryzen laptop.
chrsw•6mo ago
A laptop product for ML and not for graphics?
bigyabai•6mo ago
Unless it uses an entirely bespoke GPU architecture, presumably it will support both.
zyruh•6mo ago
Thank you!
wtallis•6mo ago
They're (over)due to start shipping miniPCs aimed at being AI/ML workstations, using a SoC that's a collaboration between Mediatek and NVIDIA, with 128GB of DRAM. They have not yet announced intentions to put those chips in laptops and run Windows on them, but the writing has been on the wall all year. It would be entirely unsurprising to see NVIDIA(+Mediatek) overtake Qualcomm for ARM Windows PC sales next year. But it's too soon to start making purchase plans around that.
zyruh•6mo ago
Thank you!
zyruh•6mo ago
I've been looking at Ryzen - thx for the tip!
benoau•6mo ago
There's really only two choices in terms of laptop: a built in discrete GPU aka a gaming laptop, or one with the ability to add an external GPU through Thunderbolt or OCuLink.

Pretty much any desktop is going to outperform a laptop, especially the GPU.

zyruh•6mo ago
Super helpful - thank you!
brudgers•6mo ago
Workstation laptops can be specified with powerful GPU’s.

You can spend $10k on a Dell with 4 drive capability, 128gb of ram and 24gb of gpu.

dankwizard•6mo ago
Yes but then you have a laptop edition card which will just never compete with desktop.
LorenDB•6mo ago
External GPU is actually a really good option here. Get a laptop with a beefy CPU (definitely Ryzen; Strix Halo chips are really good and would be decent at standalone AI as well) and Thunderbolt/Oculink, then grab an eGPU dock and get the best GPU you can afford. For gaming, eGPUs suffer from bandwidth constraints, but for LLMs it shouldn't matter as much since the model only needs loaded once; after that it can sit in VRAM.
zyruh•6mo ago
This is great - thank you!
zyruh•6mo ago
Thank you!
chrsw•6mo ago
A gaming PC is probably your best bet. PC workstations for ML are extremely expensive.
zyruh•6mo ago
Thank you!
brudgers•6mo ago
You get what you pay for.
zyruh•6mo ago
Yeah, absolutely.
zyruh•6mo ago
I was kind of thinking this. thx
dlahoda•6mo ago
for local ai seems unified mem may win.

no non mac laptop today has that with good thermals.

so some boxes has amd ai 390 or 395 with 128gb.

for laptops need to wait for good thermal releases.

so it feels that macs dominate these days in all your points, and has good resell price later, except being mac)

zyruh•6mo ago
Excellent, thank you!
brudgers•6mo ago
What is your budget?
zyruh•6mo ago
about $2-$3k.
chrsw•6mo ago
https://h20195.www2.hp.com/v2/GetPDF.aspx/c09086887

Not sure how much the 128 GB RAM version costs or when it will ship.

zyruh•6mo ago
Sweet - thank you!
fuzzfactor•6mo ago
I like the looks of those.

I have been carrying miniPC's between locations instead of laptops when there are keyboard, mouse, and monitor at each desk that I can utilize when I am sitting there. Beefy power adapters which are already in place are good to have too, I might use multiple external HDDs.

Actually a miniPC alone can be more convenient to carry than a laptop.

This HP is about twice the size I consider "normal" but more than twice as powerful :)

A bit less than twice the weight, but more than twice the money though.

This size a brick would still be as feasible as when I occasionally carry two miniPC's, I know I could handle it, but then it barely may be more convenient than a laptop.

So I'm sold, even if I don't exactly need one right now.

Hopefully these will fly off the shelf and they'll come out with a much more powerful unit real soon for about the same price, and move up from there. Ideally a whole new generation of something trending could emerge that can be made desirable in ways not possible in 2025, allowing prices of this exact model to be slashed beyond the bone.

Hopefully before the next couple years is up, looking forward to it ;)

brudgers•6mo ago
That’s limited for the workload you describe.
zyruh•6mo ago
What do you think is a more reasonable budget?
brudgers•6mo ago
Enough to buy a workstation class machine.

Alternatively, a scope that matches your budget.

zyruh•6mo ago
Thank you
bitbasher•6mo ago
I guess that means threadripper 9995 pro and 2x rtx 6000 is out.
mixmastamyk•6mo ago
I’m happy with my AMD framework. Though you said ML so maybe want Nvidia?
zyruh•6mo ago
Cool - thx for the tip!
seized•6mo ago
Framework, the AMD versions.

Can take the 48GB SODIMMs that are on the market now. That'll handle a spreadsheet or two.

zyruh•6mo ago
Great - thx!
sandreas•6mo ago
I personally like the Ryzen AI Max+ PRO 395 (Strix Halo), where you get non-upgradable, but unified RAM. This means that up to 96GB of 128GB can be used as VRAM, which is great for AI workloads and are the only machines similar to Apples approach of unified RAM.

The Framework Desktop is a really interesting machine, however it lacks the PRO in the name, which means that you're going a bit cheaper, but missing out ECC RAM option, which might be interesting for a Workstation that needs to be as stable as possible.

The HP Z2 Mini G1a Workstation has PRO available, which therefore also has unified ECC Ram up to 128GB, but this adds a premium of around 500 bucks. Maybe not worth the money.

So if you wanna go Desktop, you could pick:

  Framework desktop with Ryzen AI MAX+ 395+
  HP Z2 Mini G1a with Ryzen AI MAX+ 395+ PRO
If you wanna go mobile, there are 2 machines:

  HP ZBook Ultra G1a
  ASUS ROG Flow Z13
I would never buy an mobile ASUS device that expensive (ASUS support can be a nightmare) but at the moment these are the only mobile devices with this chip.

Otherwise you have to go Full GPU, which is non-unified and either very expensive or you get far less VRAM for AI workloads.

Here is a test with more info: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyrAur5yYrA

sandreas•6mo ago
Can anyone tell my why I got downvoted? Is this wrong advice?
sloaken•6mo ago
People can be jerks.
sandreas•6mo ago
Haha ymmd ;) Yeah, I thought it might either have been a misclick OR wrong information on my side (IF there is something wrong with it, I'd still like to know what...)
rajkumarsekar•6mo ago
For your use case, I’d recommend looking at Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen 6 or Dell XPS 15/17 with an Intel i9 or Ryzen 9, 32–64GB RAM, and NVIDIA RTX 4070 or higher. If you’re open to desktops, a custom build with a Ryzen 9 7950X, 128GB RAM, and a decent RTX 4080.
zyruh•6mo ago
Thank you - Yes, I love the Lenovo ThinkPad!
_odey•6mo ago
https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/en/TUXEDO-InfinityBook-Pro-1...

I'll get myslef one of these as well when I cash in my invoice for last month's work.

sloaken•6mo ago
Nice, I do love the configurableness, and the prices seem reasonable.
zyruh•6mo ago
Yeah, totally.
zyruh•6mo ago
Thank you! I'll check it out.