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ThinkBook Plus Gen 6 – Lenovo’s rollable laptop

https://www.theverge.com/reviews/717491/lenovo-thinkbook-plus-gen-6-rollable-laptop-review
38•xrayarx•2h ago

Comments

crinkly•2h ago
The sort of people I know who would buy that are the sort of people who will break it within the first week of owning it. It is the same with folding phone owners I know.
grues-dinner•1h ago
Hey! All these devices will still work just fine if I can only figure out how to put them back together again. Except all the ones with the broken plastic clips.
0xEF•1h ago
I openly admit that I probably lack the vision others have about these devices with flexible screens, so I find this type of display functionality useless and prone to failure. I'm not the target audience, I guess.

I cannot possibly imagine what I'd do with a "rollable" laptop, but I do see one tiny benefit to foldable phones; reduced pocket consumption. Having a smaller device or a device that gets smaller is just two different ways to solve my main beef with modern phablets.

Personally, I wish someone would just make a clamshell smart phone where I open it up to a single screen on one half and a physical keyboard on another, but that's a different discussion.

That all said, I'm curious to hear from the people who want this device. What's drawing you to it? What problem does this type of display on a laptop solve for you? What are your concerns about its robustness or longevity, if any?

FirmwareBurner•1h ago
>I cannot possibly imagine what I'd do with a "rollable" laptop

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0xEF•1h ago
Could you imagine living in a world where webdevs actually knew how to accommodate different viewports? Peace on Earth, guaranteed.
daveed•1h ago
I mean, I wouldn't buy this one, but I see the use case. A lot of reading (code, webpages) is done vertically, it's helpful to have more vertical real estate in a typical form factor.

I'm not sure about robustness, would have to wait and see tests.

whizzter•1h ago
Gave it a simulation-run and I think I really like this layout!

Working I usually prefer to have 2 normal + laptop screen when docked instead of a single extra-wide ones some at the office use when docking their laptops.

Part of it is that much software today is designed for 16:9 or 16:10 layouts and work less well in 4:3 squared form fashions (why splitting an external wide-screen is often less optimal than 2 "normal" 16:9 externals).

Now, for on the road use I've bought an external 16:9 screen but sitting next to the laptop the head-turn to the left/right is a tad too large to be fully comfortable (When docked I sit a tad further away so the 2+1 screens give a smaller angle).

Finally, coming back to this one, if as the article mentions you get 2x 16:9 layouts stacked on top of each other it'll be pretty neat for coding/debugging/testing. Top part for browser or other target environment and lower part for debugger/code editor without needing to lug anything apart from my computer with a reasonable head-turning.

Just physically tried the layout when writing this with my external USB-screen and it's probably as comfortable as goes without external keyboard+external screens, probably even an improvement over just regular laptop screen since you can look more straight ahead on the top part than with a normal laptop on a table!

ryukoposting•37m ago
My desk setup has a single 27-inch monitor with my work laptop on a stand next to it [1]. That's really all the desk space I can allocate to screens.

I don't want a laptop larger than about 13.5" because it wouldn't fit nicely in my backpack anymore. So, the only way for me to add screen real estate is to expand vertically.

That said, the bendy screen tech is far away from having a place in my life. I value durability very highly in my technology.

[1]: these pictures should help you visualize it: https://postimg.cc/gallery/6pz9Gz1

xnzakg•21m ago
Like the Cosmo Communicator?

https://www.www3.planetcom.co.uk/cosmo-communicator

zorked•18m ago
I thought foldable phones were dumb until I saw a bunch of phones and tablets in person at a Huawei shop. They are super-neat actually and I now see how they make sense.

The rollable laptop seems to be something in the same vein? It is much smaller than a laptop with that screen size.

ako•1h ago
I don't think i have a problem that can be fixed by this solution. When on the go, i want my laptop to be small and portable, when seated at a desk i want my display to be as big as possible, e.g, 32inch 4k, or 2 x 27inch.
f311a•1h ago
I think most people lack horizontal space more than vertical. Too much vertical space makes your neck tired.
ivanbakel•1h ago
> I think most people lack horizontal space more than vertical.

Is this your own experience? I’ve personally rarely suffered for horizontal space, but very often for a bit more vertical space, especially with web-browsing now being so vertically cluttered.

I think many workflows are top-to-bottom in a way that benefits from more vertical space to keep it all in view - though development is probably exceptionally well-suited. My current setup (cribbed from an ex-colleague) is two vertical screens side-by-side, and I miss it whenever I’m working with a horizontal display.

f311a•1h ago
Yeah, it's my own experience. I'm so used to horizontal splits in the terminal and editor. I can't imagine using vertical splits for code.
nicoburns•1h ago
I miss vertical space a lot when browsing websites on a small screen. There is:

- The OS toolbar

- The browser tab and url bar

- often: A fixed website header

- sometimes: A fixed website footer

Sometimes I'm left with only ~600px of vertical content space. Which isn't much for reading content, much less for skimming it or getting an overview.

fsflover•1h ago
> The browser tab

You can have vertical tabs in Firefox without any plugins now.

f311a•1h ago
On my laptop, I have tabs on the left, and the status bar and dock are hidden unless I need to see them.

Regarding headers, in my browser, I have a built-in option to disable sticky headers. I don't remember any sticky footers.

prmoustache•1h ago
1 and 2 are easily solved by pressing F11.

Are website header and footer that common nowadays? I tend to think it is more a thing from the past nowadays.

whizzter•53m ago
In the past I've agreed but this setup might just hit a sweet-spot, sitting at home the laptop is usually on a table and you keep looking downwards. Just tried setting up my USB-screen above my laptop and got pleasantly surprised by how I can look straight on the upper one.

Basically, upper part of this roll-up becomes a good "main-screen" and you can still have an auxillary lower part for extra stuff.

WillAdams•1h ago
I rather wish that they had rolled with their transparent screen concept:

https://www.windowscentral.com/hardware/laptops/lenovos-tran...

it would have been _amazing_ for usage as a manual/teaching aid in a shop setting.

thunderbong•1h ago
https://archive.is/hWOjP
type0•1h ago
Nah, I'll be waiting for a ScrollBook with touchscreen pen support and Windows 13 Proscription edition
mouse_•14m ago
It really is too bad Lenovo switched to cheaper AES stylus tech that's trash for art due to jitter and poor polling, with the added insult of the stylus needing a battery now.

Apple and Samsung are the only large manufacturers shipping competent pen tech anymore.

dotancohen•1h ago
Serious question. Am I completely old-fashioned for not expecting the word ass to appear in a professional article? Am I, a mature professional, not the target audience for this laptop or for this article? Who else would such a laptop be targeted at?
diggan•1h ago
For context:

> The other audible quirk is the ThinkBook’s “you’re doing it wrong” alarm: If you start closing the lid with the screen extended, or you move the screen while it’s rolling, the laptop emits a high-pitched tone. It’s the most 90s-motherboard-ass thing I’ve heard in a long time, but I find its needling sound oddly charming.

Would I expect to read this in a corporate press release? Not really. Would I expect to find some author trying to be a bit funny in a Verge article? Probably. Is it borderline offensive? I don't think so, wouldn't even think about it unless I read this comment first.

dotancohen•1h ago
As someone who actually was putting components on motherboards in the '90s, and even had replaced some capacitors on motherboards in the '90s, I see I'm not the target audience for the article at least. He probably should have saved the profanity for an analogy that his target audience could relate to.
Mountain_Skies•1h ago
The Fuddruckers sequence in Idiocracy comes to mind. Beyond the mainstreaming of what was previously perceived as profanity, it also seems that punctuation and capitalization are slowly on their way out.
volemo•1h ago
I mean, Verge is entertainment, not some academically inclined publishing house. And IMHO the word "ass" has long lost its weight as an offensive or even a "strong" one. It's just ass — we all have 'em. :-)
rs186•1h ago
You can be sure you won't ever see this word in nytimes, WSJ or even CNET, but the Verge is not one of them (and to my understanding, founded partly because the founders didn't want to be part of legacy media).
rahimnathwani•1h ago
The screenshots on the Lenovo site all show the single 16.7" screen being used as two screens, one above the other.

If you're not going to use it as a single screen, it's not that much better than carrying around a USB-C portable monitor, unless you switch locations several times each day.

defraudbah•1h ago
not surprised, lenovo has tons of models like L13, X13, N13, how on earth as a regular human am I supposed to make sense of it? Now I have a rollable screen, what does it even mean..

there are so many things I don't understand, same with foldable phones. I am also super happy companies like framework exist, give me a few choices, I don't need much, I want to forget times of tetrising my PC when I was a kid.

boomskats•55m ago
> how on earth as a regular human am I supposed to make sense of it?

By wanting to, and then choosing to?

> Now I have a rollable screen, what does it even mean..

Did you.. click on the link?

There are plenty of brands with a more limited product range and simpler market positioning, as you just pointed out. If those are a good fit for you and you like them, that's great. There's a reason macbooks and chromebooks are so popular.

I honestly don't get why someone would feel compelled to publicly complain about the very existence of products that they don't want or need or understand.

crimsontech•1h ago
Finally, someone is trying to tackle the huge taskbar problem in Windows 11!

I like this idea, I wouldn't buy one but I always want more vertical space on a laptop screen.

ryukoposting•55m ago
Some of the benefits the author lists make a lot of sense. The elevated sightline helps with posture, and improves the webcam angle. I use my laptop as a secondary display when working from home, and the idea of getting more real estate from the same 14-inch footprint is appealing.

I think it's telling that they aren't rolling this out in a ThinkPad-branded device. The bendy screen tech isn't really there yet. The screen surface is still wiggly, and reliability still isn't what it should be.

dzonga•53m ago
lenovo do need to work on their speaker game - on thinkpads speakers are weak. I'm not sure of parts cost but given thinkpad's target segment even an extra $50 won't hurt for macbook level quality speakers
mouse_•18m ago
It's not about parts cost, it's about r&d cost. Apple invests so much money into the quality of those internal speakers.
njuber•51m ago
Cool but I just want mouse buttons. Why did we stop doing mouse buttons? Clickpads are horrible and I'm worried that we are forgetting what we've lost.
RajT88•33m ago
I hate touchpads as a whole.

When did we stop doing laptop trackballs? (I know, I know, the last laptop with a trackball is able to legally drink by now)

burkaman•11m ago
There are still a few left. For example, https://www.hp.com/us-en/workstations/zbook-fury.html and https://www.fujitsu.com/ph/products/computing/pc/ap/notebook....
Retr0id•15m ago
A laptop with a regular screen that can raise up would be interesting, since that'd put it in a more comfortable viewing position.
nosioptar•7m ago
A Lenovo without a trackpoint us less useful than tits on a bull.

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