But for many software engineer this is not a big surprise: everyone knows that accumulating tech debt and neglecting maintence will eventually bite back sooner or later.
In which city?
YMMV
In my experience, you have to take at least one train early if you do not want to come late regularly. Even e.g. the main airport train line, used by tourists, often turns around before the actual airport due to delays.
If you live in the city itself, it's fine, you also have other options. If you live further away, it's barely acceptable to very bad, IMO.
It is reliable-ish, but more "Amtrak Capital Corridor"-reliable than "JR Yamanote Line"-reliable.
Sibling comment says all traffic in Munich is funneled through the same central section; that's also true for several Berlin lines, but I've never heard of it becoming a problem. Maybe one time. Berlin's network[1] is complex enough that you have plenty of alternate routes available if something like that happens.
Note to future urban planners: a ring railway is a great idea as it provides redundancy of any possible route through the city center. (Very large cities might even need two. The Soviets actually built a second ring to avoid West Berlin, but it doesn't run as a continuous service. You can see various regional services running around the very outside of the network map.)
I've also traveled fairly long distances by regional train (yay Deutschlandticket) and by ICE (absolutely worth it if you're not penny-pinching). It's always disrupted; trains are always late. But I always get to my destination, so I don't mind that much. If you're on a nice and relaxed schedule, like traveling the day before, you'll be fine. It seems an acceptable, despite not ideal, way to run a railway network.
I think that unlike plane travel, where you normally get there exactly on time but there's a small chance you might be seriously delayed, with German train travel you're quite often a few hours delayed (for a cross-country trip) but it's never worse than that. You never have to stay the night in a hotel, you never have to pay extra money to get rebooked, and you never have to sue them afterwards. IIRC, if you're estimated to arrive more than 20 minutes late, you're allowed to just hop on any train towards your destination - the DB app will tell you this - and you don't need a new ticket, though it's recommended to get a note from a customer service desk to prove it occurred.
Note that the German network runs a lot of trains on a lot of tracks - unlike, say, the French TGV network, which has dedicated tracks for TGVs. The German approach allows for more services with less reliability and the French approach provides the opposite. AFAIK, there are a lot more ICE routes than TGV routes because the routes can be pieced together from existing local track segments and incrementally upgraded.
Side note: I've been on a regional train that was delayed 10 minutes, then sat on a siding for another hour to let more important traffic such as ICEs run on schedule past it. There is a tradeoff between resource utilization, and slack which allows for quick return to equilibrium. The more timeslots are occupied, the longer it takes before a delayed train can find a normally empty timeslot to fit into. This also applies to computers.
And people have been complaining about train delays since long before I got here.
Not to excuse the German performance, but part of the reason is that the Italian high-speed railway network is significantly simpler than the German one, also in terms of interconnections with neighbouring countries:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Italy_TAV.png#/media...
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:ICE_Network.png#/med...
Still last year I found it much better than in Germany, overall. The only thing that PISSES me off is that the stupid Trenitalia does not show me which platform the train is departing/arriving from. It blows my mind that this CRUCIAL information is not shown anywhere and you literally have to be standing in the station to hopefully find it.
The part that is really terrible are the long-distance trains. Not that the regional trains are always punctual, their reliability varies a lot per route. But they're not as bad as the long-distance trains.
One big recent improvement is the Germany ticket, for 58 EUR per month you can take any regional train or bus.
In my recent experience the most punctual trains I’ve taken have been long-distance ones, namely IC (as opposed to ICE). Not sure why, though.
Edit: also, I found the English UI to be the best in the EU (yes, better than UK's) and traveled the continent on DB, so while I sympathize with wanting things better... as an American it was a pretty good system.
>bitching and moaning
Why is this always the American answer when anything good about EU gets brought up that maybe turned worse?
Vacation, workdays, sickdays, parental leave, free schooling and healthcare? and public transport as here.
It is a question of money, investment and what society you want. You chose the Ford F-150.
For me in Sweden, we also have worse rail now, also due to the same issue. Maintenance is never "sexy" weather its fibre or rail. Parking, roads and cars nets points here too sadly.
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It was wonderful.
BTW, the D community is all over the world. We schedule a zoom meeting each month. When we began the meetings, and the meeting started at, say, 8, the meeting organizer would say "we need to wait a bit for the rest to join us". I put my foot down and said when the meeting is scheduled for 8, it starts at exactly 8.
And everyone shows up on time! It's amazing how that works.
This was never discussed, but the pattern was the same every meeting.
I seriously disliked that nonsense.
(The same thing happens when a traffic cop handles the intersection.)
I'm always assured that the city traffic light engineers know what they're doing and design the lights for maximum flow. They do no such thing. They are either incompetent or deliberately set things up to impede the flow of traffic.
Most of the lights now have cameras on them. Would it be so hard to connect them up to AI with the goal of "maximize throughput"? Imagine how much gas would be saved. It would be tremendous!
And when you mention it, a surprising number of people say “that would never work here. People don’t know how to drive”. So little faith!
I agree with that at off-peak times, but when lights malfunction at peak times, that seems to make traffic a lot worse.
I think much of the issue is that by solving it at one intersection you simply move the problem to the next intersection. I'm pretty sure putting a roundabout at the 280/Page Mill Road intersection would improve throughput but nobody would get to work any quicker since the choke point is the next intersection along.
I think I'd get tarred and feathered if I did that at my company.
The problem with it is the boss. Too many bosses show their dominance by how much they can force underlings to wait for them. The boss is quite capable of starting the meetings on time, and the rest will work out.
I do the same thing with chronically late people. I simply don't wait for them. The problem resolves itself.
I have never had a more punctual group of people that large. It works.
If you expect them to be honest, they'll be honest.
If you expect them to be thieves, they'll be thieves.
If you expect them to be on time, they'll be on time.
And so on.
(Of course there are exceptions.)
I think it is when systems fail, people stop responding to systems, and this is what is happening in Germany right now.
The last time I caught a train in Germany I remember having to wait on a freezing platform for ~ 3 hours until they gave up on the train and got us a coach and drove us to Hamburg...that was ~ 9 years ago.
I don't remember having the same issue in Netherlands though.
On the other hand I've been in Japan for a long time, I honestly don't remember a single train being late in all that time.
Two bad examples: there's a PhD level genius just a few villages away and he still didn't even try to get the funding to build a proper mechatronics Hogwarts in our area ( it's 2025 ... ) and a nuclear Physics PhD, who's now a banker ( crying laughing joker emoji, a fucking banker, like one of those modern Kazakhs, crying laughing Joker emoji ) just a little further away .... who's daddy is also a Physics PhD and has been in IT for 30 years or so ... Iean, sure, money, but is that all "agency" or just the result of priming/nudging towards the lower levels?
Good little Germans, just do as I do, keep your lips ( and minds ) sealed .... walk away
it's 4 to 8 hours of work per day anyway and you got the brains for it, ma dudes and dudettes, what the fuuuuuuuck
Thanks for the chuckle!
I live in Germany and I sent the article to my former manager. His response, verbatim, was this:
"This pisses me off so deeply".
I went on to muse about the "academic quarter hour" and that now "six minutes is now German standard lateness".
All in good faith, and hell of a lot of fun.
Germany took some choices about where it's going as a nation and now complaining about how the destination terrain is shaping up.
I'd hope they discover causality one day but I'm afraid that ship already sailed.
Also pick train stations for the exchange where there are more options for follow up connection trains, in case that half an hour is not enough.
Additionally good luck with luggage, the new trains hardly have any space for luggage, I don't understand how they are supposed to be an alternative to cars, if the only luggage I can fit on the upper compartment is a slim backpack, under the seat, or if I am lucky fighting for a slot on the single luggage compartment in the middle of the wagon.
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