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US tech rules the European market

https://proton.me/blog/us-tech-rules-europe
33•devonnull•2h ago

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bigyabai•1h ago
Wait until they find out whose market Taiwan rules.
betaby•1h ago
Somewhere in 2005-2010 mail was declared for some reason a hard problem and outsourced to Microsoft and Google. The rest if the history.
esafak•1h ago
All apps simply moved to the cloud. It was not just email. Let somebody else worry about it.
dijit•1h ago
> 74% of Europe’s publicly listed companies rely on US-based tech like Google and Microsoft.

Only 74%?

That feels wrong.

I don’t know a single company off the top of my head that wouldn’t suffer serious damage if you null-routed Google and Microsoft’s servers.

Excel rules the world, and even if it didn’t: nobody is running libreoffice on linux professionally, at least not that I am aware of- and hosting mail? Conventional wisdom is that you should outsource that: I don’t seriously believe that people would outsource mail and not go with Google/Microsoft and get a productivity suite “for free”.

rich_sasha•6m ago
I worked for two companies who ran two separate stacks. One was all Windows and was a glorified email / Excel thing for talking to clients. All the business logic was on a separate network and was all Linux.

If Windows pulled the plug, it would be a major PITA but no more.

iknowstuff•1h ago
> Big Tech companies dominate, not because they’re better, but because they have the first mover’s advantage

Uuuh says who? I think they dominate because they are in fact better for business for one reason or another.

esseph•28m ago
Being good at other things can have them generate enough money to blow trying to be good at a $NewThing that smol players only doing $OneThing can't hope to match.
unethical_ban•21m ago
Google drive is awful, completely atrocious to navigate and reason about.
iknowstuff•14m ago
Cool but GCP or AWS is overall running circles around OVHCloud.

GSuite and O365 are better for businesses than uhhh… what is the european equivalent even? Tutanota and protonmail + libreoffice?

vachina•1h ago
You need talent to make tech that people want to use. Europe does not have that talent pool nor do they actively retain or attract such talents.

Also them being fully subscribed to capitalism: let other people solve my problems.

wkat4242•36m ago
We have plenty of talent. And we don't care as much about money. I chose to move to a lower income country within the EU just because I like life there better. I would never move to the US. In fact I wouldn't even consider visiting, even if my work asks me to.

The reason tech isn't so big here is that there's more regulation and less loose capital. Both aren't bad things IMO. Venture capital is pure gambling in the US. We don't subscribe to the American unrestricted capitalism here (well except for the UK and Netherlands which are heavily influenced by America)

edg5000•5m ago
Never heard about NL and UK having US-like venture capital situations. I always hear complaints that it's harder to raise in the EU. I've never heard NL and UK meantioned as an exception before. I understand the close US ties, but can you elaborate more on the venture capital thing?

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