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Teacher AI Use Is Already Out of Control and It's Not Ok

https://simonwillison.net/2025/Aug/5/greyduet-on-rteachers/
33•jruohonen•2h ago

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hanspeter•2h ago
Is there more to it, or are we calling the situation out of control based on a single anecdote from Reddit?
EdwardDiego•1h ago
You need to read more of the source blog - he's been pretty pro LLM, but is now acknowledging where it's going too far.
hanspeter•53m ago
I'm not new to simonw.

It doesn't change that this is just a quote from a reddit post and a link to it.

NoPicklez•2h ago
Fairy low quality post this one
EdwardDiego•1h ago
You need to read more of the source blog - he's been pretty pro LLM, but is now acknowledging where it's going too far.
DougBTX•57m ago
Agreed, this is just a quote on his link blog. Better to post Reddit thread directly. I wouldn’t expect a plain Reddit link to get to the HN front page though.
EdwardDiego•1h ago
Interesting, Simon Williamson has been rather engaged with and positive about LLM usage, so it's good to see some nuance developing.
ItsHarper•1h ago
He's more pro-AI than I am, but his writing has always had nuance IMO
sieste•1h ago
Teacher saved himself some time by using a chatbot to make a slideshow presentation for a staff meeting. Good!

Teachers use chatbots for everything else, uncritically. Not good!

politelemon•56m ago
I suggest please link directly to the reddit thread, it has the original text (not a snippet) and lots of additional insights and anecdotes in the comments.

https://np.reddit.com/r/Teachers/comments/1mhntjh/unpopular_...

fzeroracer•55m ago
Teachers using AI to generate all of their lesson material, read student papers and write comments.

Students using AI to generate their papers and solve complex problems.

What are we as humans even doing. Why not just connect two shitty models together and tell them to hallucinate to each other and skip the whole need to think about anything. We can fire both teachers and students at the same time and save money on this whole education thing.

woodpanel•49m ago
Agree.

Somehow though, this actually might be the best time to for learners, to sit down and engage with topics and don’t be distracted by formal stuff (degrees, grades, points) because the latter is becoming more meaningless with each token being sent down the drain.

avidiax•30m ago
> Why not just connect two shitty models together and tell them to hallucinate to each other and skip the whole need to think about anything.

Western countries have better conditions than much of the world for a variety of reasons, but among them is education and culture.

Raising the next generation to outsource all thinking to AI and form a culture around influencing people 45 seconds at a time will destroy those prerequisites to our better lifestyle, and it will be downhill from there.

You might argue that the AI can be a mentor or can guide society appropriately. That's not wholly untrue, but if AI is "a bicycle for the mind", you still have to have the willingness and vision to go someplace with it. If you've never thought for yourself, never learned anything independently, I just don't see how people will avoid using AI to be "stupid faster".

crinkly•27m ago
We are normalising everything and everyone into information grey goo.
HPsquared•21m ago
It's a microcosm of the real economy.
ben_w•15m ago
Teachers:

IIRC, it may be better to have the same number of real humans focussing on fewer pupils. Even when they're using VLMs as assistants.

Students:

While humans max out at a higher skill level than VLMs, I suspect that most (not all!) people who would otherwise have finished education at their local mandatory school leaving age, may be better off finishing school as soon as they can use a VLM.

But also #1: There's also a question of apprenticeships over the current schooling system. Robotics' AI are not as advanced as VLMs, so while plumbing will get solved eventually (and a tentacle robot arm with a camera in each "finger" is clearly superior to our human arms in tight spaces), right now it still looks like a sane thing to train in.

But also #2: Telling who is and isn't getting anything out of the education system is really hard; not only in historical systems like the UK's old eleven-plus exams, but today after university graduation when it can sometimes take a bit of effort to detect that someone only got a degree for the prestige and didn't really learn anything.

internet_points•36m ago
> * A teacher sponsoring a club put student artwork through Microsoft Copilot to 'clean it up' because he thought it looked too unfinished and the kid felt incredibly disrespected and upset.

and rightly so! kids deserve better, that is awful

chii•28m ago
however, this same action could be useful if it was placed in a different context - for example, if the teacher uses the same AI to produce an artefact, then use it to critique the student as part of teaching (say, to show what might be lacking in a particular piece).
crinkly•28m ago
So my daughter got sent home with some math questions. Thought they looked a bit dry but thought nothing further of it. I checked the answers for her which were all ok.

Couple of days later she comes home and tells me I was wrong about some of them which I know I was not. Apparently they self marked them as the teacher read the answers out. Decided to phone in and ask about the marking scheme which I was told I was wrong too and basically I should have done better at GCSE mathematics.

I relayed my mathematical credentials and immediately the tone changed. The discussion indicated that they’d generated the questions with CoPilot and then fed that back into CoPilot and generated the answer sheet which had two incorrect answers on it.

The teacher and department head in question defended their position until I threatened to feed them to the examination board and leadership team. The following of the tech was almost zealot level religious thinking which is not something I want to see in education.

I check all homework now carefully and there have been other issues since.

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